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There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
 
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There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
So interesting how all of these traditions are related. Many forget that there are Greeks of many different religions, and we should always be united and appreciative of all of our cultures and traditions
 
There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
What a wonderful contribution here...I wish I could add more here but all my books, and I have tons of them are still in Mykonos... Thank you kindly for informative and inspiring reading!
 
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What a wonderful contribution here...I wish I could add more here but all my books, and I have tons of them are still in Mykonos... Thank you kindly for informative and inspiring reading!
Do you remember names of books that any that you can recommend??
 

Navigating Greek Lenten Fasting - Advice?

Lent is here and all my friends and family have been asking "what are you doing for lent this year?" They're all "giving something up" but I decided I wanted to fast. I would love your help and advice because this is the first time I am doing things in a stricter way. I resolve to see it through!

It's supposed to be a a time of reflection, purification, and preparation for the celebration of Easter, and the diet plays a significant part in this spiritual journey. I don't want to get so obsessed with the "rules" that I lose myself in them and forget why I am fasting int he first place.

Thanks in advance!

Greek Wedding Traditions Roundup

I am helping someone plan her Greek wedding. I wanted to make a list of all the traditions we need to keep in time for the big day. Did I miss anything?

The Stolisma

The wedding day begins with the ritual of 'Stolisma,' where the bride and groom are prepared separately by their families. It's a moment filled with emotion, songs, and blessings, setting the tone for the day. I had honestly never heard of this. Do people still do it?

The Krevati

An amusing tradition is the 'Krevati' (bed making), where family and friends gather to decorate the couple's future bed with baby items, symbolizing fertility and a happy family life. Money is also often thrown on the bed for good luck and prosperity.

The Crowning (Stefana)

One of the most iconic rituals during the ceremony is the exchange of crowns or 'Stefana.' I believe they need to buy the crowns they want in advance?

Koufeta

No Greek wedding would be complete without 'Koufeta'—sugar-coated almonds given to guests as wedding favors. These bittersweet treats represent the ups and downs of married life and are shared in odd numbers to symbolize indivisibility and shared life.

When does Orthodox lent start this year?

I noticed our Easter is late - May 5th - but Western Easter is at the end of March. Has Lent already started for them? When does our Lent start?

This year, I plan to do a stricter Lenten fast, so I want to plan some things out in advance.

Lent is a time for introspection, repentance, and spiritual growth. Through the dedicated practice of fasting, prayer, and charity, believers seek not only to grow closer to God but also to better understand themselves in relation to God’s will.

Greek family customs - Personal related

Hi there. Not sure if this is the right forum, but I've got some personal issues with my family. My brother in law (73) is Greek. His wife (my sister) is not. They have a daughter (34) (my niece) that "sides" more with the Greek culture.

My niece has never left home, and has never paid rent or paid for food. She's been mostly jobless although she has worked a few jobs here and there. My sister is fed up with it, but when she confronts my BIL, he says "Greeks don't do that". And what he is implying (I guess) is that Greeks take care of their family in this way.

My BIL had a stroke many years ago and his health is declining rapidly. I am advocating for an attendant to come into the house every day and get him dressed, showered, make him meals, etc. My sister is 73 and she can't physically handle this. She also doesn't want to devote every waking moment to keeping an eye on him. When she suggests an attendant, again, "Greeks don't do that".

Now I'm pretty sure this is all BS, but would love to get some input from any Greek people in this forum.

Thinking about the Greek way of hospitality...

I thought I would ask your thoughts oh Philoxenia - or the Greek way, or art, of hospitality. I noticed this when I travel in Greece. People are so kind, they often go out of the way for us, when I feel that they don't have to! How can one describe this to someone?

From what I understand, Philoxenia is not merely a practice but a deeply ingrained value within Greek culture that extends far beyond the simple act of hosting. It reflects a genuine, heartfelt welcome to strangers, treating them with the same respect and generosity one would show to a dearly beloved friend. This beautiful tradition, passed down through generations, turns the act of hosting into an art form, embodying warmth, respect, and a profound sense of human compassion. There have been so many stories I can think of...

This thought process was triggered because we were watching My Big Fat Greek Wedding 3 - someone in the village had taken on a Syrian refugee. Is this a Greek hospitality thing? Philoxenia?
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