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mastichas09

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I love the history of this place! In 480 BC, along with the other two city-states, ancient Ialyssos formed a confederation to protect themselves. Together, these three would form the capital of Rhodes. The capital stretched from this area to present day Rhodes Town. You will see the Temple of Athena, the Doric fountain-house, and the Byzantine fortifications.

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tomipark

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I loved this place! My cousin insisted that we take a guided tour and it was actually great even though I usually don't like tour guides. There is so much to learn I highly recommend it
 
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cf_fraiser

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In 2011 as a part of the local government reform it became a part of the municipality Rhodes
 

Tpebop

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Best place to visit is Ancient Kamaros not far from Kamaros Scala port
 
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seleanor

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Best place to visit is Ancient Kamaros not far from Kamaros Scala port
I love the archeological site there, so cool
 

k_tsoukalas

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This is a great place to visit because there is so much history! That's a great photo of it, too.
 

amygdalE

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I love the history of this place! In 480 BC, along with the other two city-states, ancient Ialyssos formed a confederation to protect themselves. Together, these three would form the capital of Rhodes. The capital stretched from this area to present day Rhodes Town. You will see the Temple of Athena, the Doric fountain-house, and the Byzantine fortifications.

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A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
 
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A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
No picture of Greece can capture the beautiful history, you have to learn about it in order to see through the picture and the landscape. That is what is most beautiful about Greece, there is history everywhere. You are right
 

amygdalE

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No picture of Greece can capture the beautiful history, you have to learn about it in order to see through the picture and the landscape. That is what is most beautiful about Greece, there is history everywhere. You are right
I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
 
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dubai_suzie

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I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
Hmmm while I was trying to find the origins of the name I found that there was a name change of the city. Wikipedia says that is used to be called Τριάντα or Trianta before 1976
 

amygdalE

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A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
Furthermore, there are two ancient Greek words for "rain", namely Ombros (= rain-storm or thunderstorm, such as Zeus would send) and Yetos (the common rain). They said that Zeus uei as well as ombrei ; *Ya-os (and his daughters or sisters, the Yades) simply uei. (The idea that a God "causes" rain or storms is of a later date, when a God was conceived as a non-physical entity.)
 

Tpebop

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Trianta & Ialyssos are 2 different places on Rhodes.
 
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blopez34

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Trianta & Ialyssos are 2 different places on Rhodes.
Im googling and its coming up as the same thing...what is the difference? :)
 

Tpebop

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as I said they are 2 different places.these days its difficult to know where one ends and the other begins.Trianta means 30 & named after the number of people who founded the village. some people say its named trianta because only 30 properties were originally allowed to be built there.
 
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amygdalE

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Furthermore, there are two ancient Greek words for "rain", namely Ombros (= rain-storm or thunderstorm, such as Zeus would send) and Yetos (the common rain). They said that Zeus uei as well as ombrei ; *Ya-os (and his daughters or sisters, the Yades) simply uei. (The idea that a God "causes" rain or storms is of a later date, when a God was conceived as a non-physical entity.)
The aforementioned hypothetical Yaos [*Yaos] was the name of a god whose daughters or sisters are called Yades. Actually I have never seen any mention of this god; the name -- or, more exactly "YAS" [correctly Hyas], mentioned online -- is a back-formation, a modern derivation, from the extant Greek name "YA-des" [Hyades]. YA is the root; either Yas or Yaos is the constructed nominative case of the noun. "Ya" is present in "Iapetos" etc., and has variants such as "Yo". The Latin nominative Jo-us is obviously a latinization of *Yo-os or *Ya-os [or YAS, a contraction equivalent to the Latin JU, as in Jupiter/Ju-pater]. Jupiter = the father/source of what is RIGHT or JUstice (Justitia). {An ancient Roman soldier realized that Jupiter, Zeus, and Yahweh were one and the same god. Much more remains to be said.}
When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek, both the Elohim (the Gods) of Genesis-1 and Yahweh of Genesis-2 were translated simply as Theos (God). Thus the Greek YA of "Yahweh" was hidden. Similarly, the JU of "Jupiter" hides the original name, YOU-. Zeus or Deus or Zas is not a variant of Ya/Ia/Ja [Yas], and I do not know any myth about Yas/Yaos, the rain-god, as legislator.
 
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amygdalE

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I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
I knew the meaning of -lyssos, but the translation of the whole compound word seemed strange --
that's why I asked for assistance. Now, I came across an online list of historical personal names and their etymology. I saw the compound name LYSANDER, which they see as a Latin transcription of the Greek LYSANDROS. They translate the two components as Release and Man, wherefore presumably the whole word means "releasing man" [releaser, liberator?] or perhaps "free man". They also mention that this was the name of a Spartan commander, which suggests to me that the lexical compounding was done by the same Dorians or Peloponnesians who had migrated to Rhodes and produced the name "Ia-lyssos" for a town. Did they mean "God [Ya] liberates" or "Ya-saved"?? These translations are still strange and uncertain.
 

amygdalE

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An incidental disquisition about compound words whose components are nouns, like EarthQuake and LysAndros:

Inflected languages like Latin, ancient Greek, old English, etc., had the advantage, to avoid ambiguities and to make accurate translations, precisely by the use of grammatical endings or word alterations. E.g.,
"WordAlteration" = "alteration OF a word". "PhiloTheos" = "philos theOU", but then, when the compound noun was meant to be the name of a being, it was set in a NOMINATIVE form, that is, by suffixing -OS. (So, obviously the word coiners were also perspicacious linguists/semanticists of their own works.) "TheoPhilos" = "theou philos" [= I say: god's friend, god-befriended/loved], which, used as a name, does not need an alteration. However, this "philos" has an accusative/undergoing value or sense, which I tried to convey in my second translation. //

Speaking of "Ia-Lyss(os)", it is difficult to tell whether the second component has an agent/patient (active/passive) value. The use of a verbal noun, a past participle like PETOS in IAPETOS, leaves no doubt about its value [a passive/undergoing value], wherefore I translate it as "by Ya hurled, Ya-hurled, *Iadopetos?" rather than "hurling Ya". Fortunately a myth tells us that invading titans were hurled down from Mount Olympus. Apparently, the word Iapetos is < [from] *Iadopetos by an apochope [Ia( )petos]. [An Assumed Declination: Ias, *Iados (whence Iades; *Iadikos), etc.]
 
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Holiday season coming to a close in Greece & the islands

Soon tavernas/bars & shops will be closing until 2024.By mid november it will be very quiet.

Traveling to Rhodes for the First Time?

I am researching potential places to visit in Greece. Rhodes is on the list because someone told me it was a great place to go to imagine the times when the Greek mythological stories were a prevalent part of the culture (Mandraki Harbor). I was thinking of spending a bit of time there. Do you have any recommendations on what else I should do while there? Some possibilities:
  • Explore the ruins from the Knights of Saint John
  • Acropolis at Lindos
  • Beaches - Faliriki, Lindos Beach, etc (did I miss any beaches - these are the ones that most intrigued me)
What else should I see? Thanks!

Religious sites to visit on Rhodes

Today, I’m excited to share four religious sites that you might want to visit as you journey along a certain road. Each of these destinations offers a unique insight into the spiritual legacy and historical context of the regions you'll find yourself immersed in. However, remember I haven't visited this myself. I am thinking of visiting them. So I will make updates as I find more information. For example, I just added more information about the names of the places so they're easier to find.

1. The Temple at the Crossroads

This serene temple, ancient as the surrounding groves, is named for the cross-section of paths where legend says the gods intersect. The atmosphere is calm, and it's said that prayers offered here meet deities from all four cardinal directions. Locals believe that if you meditate within the temple's main hall, you can sense the divine converging around you.

I think this place is also called Temple of Apollo Pythias but I could be wrong.

2. The Monastery Through the Mist

Nestled high in the mountains, this monastery is famous for the shroud of mist that enwraps it, making it feel like an ethereal resting place. History marks it as the site where the first saint of the region achieved enlightenment. Pilgrims hike hours up treacherous paths to be blessed where the clouds meet the heavens.

I think this place is also called Filerimos Monastery - should be easier to find under this name.

3. The Shrine within a Cave

A cave lodges in a cliffside on the third leg of our journey, housing a shrine illuminated only by the gentle glow of candles. An annual festival invites thousands, as they carry torches along narrow ledges to pay homage to the hermit who first discovered this sanctuary. The echo of religious chants is said to make the rocks themselves vibrate.

I think this is also called Cave of Archangel Michael.

4. The Ancient Blessing Well

A clearing in the dense woods reveals a well, adorned with flowers, that many claim has healing properties. Here, people of all faiths come to draw water and leave tokens of gratitude for the water spirit. This practice was believed to have been started by a traveling monk hundreds of years ago, imparting legends of miraculous recoveries to those who drank from it.

Is this place in the Fortification of Rhodes?



Note: I edited this to fix the error about the amount. I had 5 but decided I didn't want to talk about the fifth. I also put some more information about locations.

Have you been to the casino in Rhodes?

I would love to visit the casino in Rhodes! But I've never gambled in Greece, what is it like?

Web cameras on Rhodes

There are several cameras. go to youtube.com
search for DHMOS RODOY
Share and discuss your Rhodes photos, questions and experiences!

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