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I was always curious and still am how would the world have been if the Persians won against the Greeks? How would that have changed the course the world? I look forward to some replies.





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This is a great thought provoking question! So many things would be different, only one can speculate! Thanks for the questions 🇬🇷🇬🇷
 
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I think one of the main things that would be different is the architecture, democracy and philosophy. Thats what I see as the biggest impact that Greece has had on the world. I would assume that many modern day governments would be influenced by Persian philosophy and government structures. The Persian empire was very strong and had a lot to offer the world. Its interesting to think about
 
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I think one of the main things that would be different is the architecture, democracy and philosophy. Thats what I see as the biggest impact that Greece has had on the world. I would assume that many modern day governments would be influenced by Persian philosophy and government structures. The Persian empire was very strong and had a lot to offer the world. Its interesting to think about
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Does this mean that the world would still be governed by Monarchs who have aboslute powers worldwide instead of democratic governments and that the world would be worshipping only Zoroastrianism gods nowdays? I look forward to your reply.

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This is a great thought provoking question! So many things would be different, only one can speculate! Thanks for the questions 🇬🇷🇬🇷
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No Problem. I always love to ask good questions. What is your answer to my question of this thread? I look forward to your reply.

kind regards John Stefan
 
John Stefan said:
I was always curious and still am how would the world have been if the Persians won against the Greeks? How would that have changed the course the world? I look forward to some replies.





kind regards John Stefan
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Everyone in the world would be gay
 
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