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What is the myth of Santorini and Atlantis?

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I didn't know that the myth of Atlantis and Santorini had anything to do with each other. What is the story behind the beautiful tourist island and the mythical city?

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This story shared some elements with the myth of Atlantis, and there are those who believe that the mythological city of Atlantis that Plato wrote about, and that has been romanticized over the centuries, is actually the portion of Santorini that sunk to the bottom of the sea after the volcano erupted.
 
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