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I had someone recently tell me that traditional keftedes are fried and not baked. Is this true? For what it's worth, I think the fried ones taste better!

I tried baking them once, and the keftedes fell apart in the oven. If I do bake them, do I need to do anything different to the recipe?
 
Keftedes are small meatballs are generally fried. Biftekia are large meatballs and are generally baked in the oven.

In Greece if you say you're making keftedes to someone then they will assume you're frying small meat balls, and the same goes for biftekia and baking.

As for them falling apart, I don't know why that's happening because they are pretty much the same. With keftedes you dip them in flour to fry them but you don't do this with biftekia because they aren't fried.
 
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I had someone recently tell me that traditional keftedes are fried and not baked. Is this true? For what it's worth, I think the fried ones taste better!

I tried baking them once, and the keftedes fell apart in the oven. If I do bake them, do I need to do anything different to the recipe?
The mixture my mother used was hamburg, egg, bread, spearmint, and onion. Perhaps you didn't use bread. My mother fried them. Later, my wife would bake them. None fell apart that I can remember.
 
The mixture my mother used was hamburg, egg, bread, spearmint, and onion. Perhaps you didn't use bread. My mother fried them. Later, my wife would bake them. None fell apart that I can remember.
I used bread crumbs, not bread. Maybe it made a difference!
 
Keftedes are small meatballs are generallg fried. Biftekia are large meatballs and are generally baked in the oven.

In Greece if you say you're making keftedes to someone then they will assume you're frying small meat balls, and the same goes for biftekia and baking.

As for them falling apart, I don't know why that's happening because they are pretty much the same. With keftedes you dip them in flour to fry them but you don't do this with biftekia because they aren't fried.
I had no idea the difference - thank you! I made a batch the other day and they didn't fall apart, so I don't know what I am doing differently from batch to batch. Maybe next time I will try soaked bread instead of bread crumbs, and then maybe that will make it more consistent.
 
Yup, that is the difference that I learned, too. Keftedes are typically fried. Really, it is all the same mixture so when I cook, I don't overthink naming it... but naming it can help put things into context.
 

Making traditional loukaniko question

I’m on a culinary quest to master the art of making Loukaniko, the traditional Greek sausage that tantalizes taste buds with its savory blend of spices and herbs. I understand that each region and even each family might have their own special recipe passed down through generations.

Which leads me to my ask - could anyone who’s familiar with Greek cuisine share insights about the most common seasonings used in Loukaniko? I'm especially interested in any mix of spices that gives it that characteristic flavor profile.

I’ve done some preliminary research, but I’m looking for that firsthand knowledge. What's the blend that makes your Loukaniko stand out? Are there any particular secrets to perfect the authentic taste?

Traditional Greek soups in Greece?

Most of the Greeks I know are from the United States - so it's been a few generations since a lot of them spent extended time in Greece.

From what I understand, Greek cuisine kind of changes. From what I can tell, in the United States, the most popular soup is Egg and Lemon soup (avgolemono) but in Greece, I don't see to as much or rather, hear of it as much.

What are the most popular soups in Greece?

No Meat Dolmades (Stuffed Grape Leaves) Recipe

It has taken me a long time to get vegetarian dolmades to the point where I enjoy them. Here is my recipe. It uses a lot of oil, so strict fasters shouldn't eat them. But most people aren't super strict so I would even say these are good for lent!

Ingredients:​

  • 1 jar of grape leaves (about 60-70 leaves)
  • 1 cup short-grain rice
  • 1 large onion, finely chopped
  • 2 cloves garlic, minced
  • 1/2 cup chopped fresh dill
  • 1/2 cup chopped fresh mint
  • 1/2 cup chopped fresh parsley
  • 1/4 cup olive oil, plus extra for drizzling
  • Juice of 2 lemons
  • Salt and pepper to taste
  • Water

Instructions:​

  1. Prepare the Grape Leaves:
    • If using grape leaves preserved in brine, rinse them well under cold water to remove excess salt. If using fresh grape leaves, blanch them in boiling water for about 1 minute, then drain and rinse with cold water. Trim off any stems.
  2. Prepare the Filling:
    • In a large bowl, combine the rice, chopped onion, minced garlic, chopped dill, chopped mint, chopped parsley, olive oil, lemon juice, salt, and pepper. Mix well to combine.
  3. Fill and Roll the Grape Leaves:
    • Place a grape leaf flat on a clean work surface, shiny side down, with the stem end facing you. Spoon about 1 tablespoon of the rice filling onto the center of the leaf, near the stem end.
    • Fold the bottom of the leaf over the filling, then fold in the sides, and roll tightly into a small cylinder.
    • Repeat with the remaining grape leaves and filling, arranging the rolled dolmades seam-side down in a large pot or deep skillet, packing them snugly together.
  4. Cook the Dolmades:
    • Once all the dolmades are rolled and packed in the pot, drizzle with a little olive oil and lemon juice.
    • Pour enough water into the pot to just cover the dolmades.
    • Place a heatproof plate or lid directly on top of the dolmades to keep them submerged during cooking.
    • Bring the water to a boil over medium-high heat, then reduce the heat to low, cover the pot, and simmer gently for about 45-60 minutes, or until the rice is cooked and the grape leaves are tender.

Enjoying Cooking with Greek Honey

One of the things I love most about Greek honey is its versatility. You can use it in so many different ways in the kitchen. I've drizzled it over Greek yogurt for breakfast, mixed it into salad dressings for a touch of sweetness, and even used it as a glaze for roasted vegetables. The depth of flavor it adds to dishes is truly remarkable.

But perhaps my favorite way to use Greek honey is in baking. It adds a wonderful depth of flavor to cakes, cookies, and pastries. I recently made a batch of baklava using Greek honey, and it was a game-changer. The honey soaked into the layers of phyllo dough, creating a sweet and sticky treat that was absolutely irresistible.

I go out of my way to buy it - if I can't find it locally, I get it online. When I go to Greece, I get some in Greece, too.

What do you love to use Greek honey for?

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How to learn about different regional cuisines in Greece?

I have learned so much about Greek cuisine by being on this forum! I know that there are standard recipes that everyone seems to cook.

For example, you can get souvlaki all over. Everyone seems to serve a village salad with slight variations. Most regions seem to make moussaka. There are tons of others.

I have also noticed that each region has their own specialties. How do you go about learning about them?

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