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I love the history of this place! In 480 BC, along with the other two city-states, ancient Ialyssos formed a confederation to protect themselves. Together, these three would form the capital of Rhodes. The capital stretched from this area to present day Rhodes Town. You will see the Temple of Athena, the Doric fountain-house, and the Byzantine fortifications.

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I loved this place! My cousin insisted that we take a guided tour and it was actually great even though I usually don't like tour guides. There is so much to learn I highly recommend it
 
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In 2011 as a part of the local government reform it became a part of the municipality Rhodes
 
Best place to visit is Ancient Kamaros not far from Kamaros Scala port
 
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Best place to visit is Ancient Kamaros not far from Kamaros Scala port
I love the archeological site there, so cool
 
This is a great place to visit because there is so much history! That's a great photo of it, too.
 
I love the history of this place! In 480 BC, along with the other two city-states, ancient Ialyssos formed a confederation to protect themselves. Together, these three would form the capital of Rhodes. The capital stretched from this area to present day Rhodes Town. You will see the Temple of Athena, the Doric fountain-house, and the Byzantine fortifications.

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A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
 
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A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
No picture of Greece can capture the beautiful history, you have to learn about it in order to see through the picture and the landscape. That is what is most beautiful about Greece, there is history everywhere. You are right
 
No picture of Greece can capture the beautiful history, you have to learn about it in order to see through the picture and the landscape. That is what is most beautiful about Greece, there is history everywhere. You are right
I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
 
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I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
Hmmm while I was trying to find the origins of the name I found that there was a name change of the city. Wikipedia says that is used to be called Τριάντα or Trianta before 1976
 
A great picture. However, unfortunately it cannot contain its fascinating history, from its foundation by Peloponnesian people. (They were distant cousins of mine, for they founed my ancestral city, Thoyrioi in South Italy, named after the Peloponnesian Thouria.) Recently the name "Ialyssos" has intrigued me because it has seemed to be a theophoric name (a name that contains the word "god" or the name of a god), like the well known Japetos, the titan who was cast down by the Olympian gods. So, I see Japetos as Ja/Ia/Ya + petos, that is, the "Ya cast down One." So, I see Ialyssos as Ya-lyssos. Let us remember that Mount Parnassus is in the Peloponnese and that one of its peaks [where a god resides] was called YampeiE. From various linguistic evidence I have inferred that Ya was the rain-god, whereas Zeus was the storm-god.
Furthermore, there are two ancient Greek words for "rain", namely Ombros (= rain-storm or thunderstorm, such as Zeus would send) and Yetos (the common rain). They said that Zeus uei as well as ombrei ; *Ya-os (and his daughters or sisters, the Yades) simply uei. (The idea that a God "causes" rain or storms is of a later date, when a God was conceived as a non-physical entity.)
 
Trianta & Ialyssos are 2 different places on Rhodes.
 
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Trianta & Ialyssos are 2 different places on Rhodes.
Im googling and its coming up as the same thing...what is the difference? :)
 
as I said they are 2 different places.these days its difficult to know where one ends and the other begins.Trianta means 30 & named after the number of people who founded the village. some people say its named trianta because only 30 properties were originally allowed to be built there.
 
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Furthermore, there are two ancient Greek words for "rain", namely Ombros (= rain-storm or thunderstorm, such as Zeus would send) and Yetos (the common rain). They said that Zeus uei as well as ombrei ; *Ya-os (and his daughters or sisters, the Yades) simply uei. (The idea that a God "causes" rain or storms is of a later date, when a God was conceived as a non-physical entity.)
The aforementioned hypothetical Yaos [*Yaos] was the name of a god whose daughters or sisters are called Yades. Actually I have never seen any mention of this god; the name -- or, more exactly "YAS" [correctly Hyas], mentioned online -- is a back-formation, a modern derivation, from the extant Greek name "YA-des" [Hyades]. YA is the root; either Yas or Yaos is the constructed nominative case of the noun. "Ya" is present in "Iapetos" etc., and has variants such as "Yo". The Latin nominative Jo-us is obviously a latinization of *Yo-os or *Ya-os [or YAS, a contraction equivalent to the Latin JU, as in Jupiter/Ju-pater]. Jupiter = the father/source of what is RIGHT or JUstice (Justitia). {An ancient Roman soldier realized that Jupiter, Zeus, and Yahweh were one and the same god. Much more remains to be said.}
When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek, both the Elohim (the Gods) of Genesis-1 and Yahweh of Genesis-2 were translated simply as Theos (God). Thus the Greek YA of "Yahweh" was hidden. Similarly, the JU of "Jupiter" hides the original name, YOU-. Zeus or Deus or Zas is not a variant of Ya/Ia/Ja [Yas], and I do not know any myth about Yas/Yaos, the rain-god, as legislator.
 
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I am sure some inhabitant of the city knows or has found the meaning of the city's name. Please divulge it.
I knew the meaning of -lyssos, but the translation of the whole compound word seemed strange --
that's why I asked for assistance. Now, I came across an online list of historical personal names and their etymology. I saw the compound name LYSANDER, which they see as a Latin transcription of the Greek LYSANDROS. They translate the two components as Release and Man, wherefore presumably the whole word means "releasing man" [releaser, liberator?] or perhaps "free man". They also mention that this was the name of a Spartan commander, which suggests to me that the lexical compounding was done by the same Dorians or Peloponnesians who had migrated to Rhodes and produced the name "Ia-lyssos" for a town. Did they mean "God [Ya] liberates" or "Ya-saved"?? These translations are still strange and uncertain.
 
An incidental disquisition about compound words whose components are nouns, like EarthQuake and LysAndros:

Inflected languages like Latin, ancient Greek, old English, etc., had the advantage, to avoid ambiguities and to make accurate translations, precisely by the use of grammatical endings or word alterations. E.g.,
"WordAlteration" = "alteration OF a word". "PhiloTheos" = "philos theOU", but then, when the compound noun was meant to be the name of a being, it was set in a NOMINATIVE form, that is, by suffixing -OS. (So, obviously the word coiners were also perspicacious linguists/semanticists of their own works.) "TheoPhilos" = "theou philos" [= I say: god's friend, god-befriended/loved], which, used as a name, does not need an alteration. However, this "philos" has an accusative/undergoing value or sense, which I tried to convey in my second translation. //

Speaking of "Ia-Lyss(os)", it is difficult to tell whether the second component has an agent/patient (active/passive) value. The use of a verbal noun, a past participle like PETOS in IAPETOS, leaves no doubt about its value [a passive/undergoing value], wherefore I translate it as "by Ya hurled, Ya-hurled, *Iadopetos?" rather than "hurling Ya". Fortunately a myth tells us that invading titans were hurled down from Mount Olympus. Apparently, the word Iapetos is < [from] *Iadopetos by an apochope [Ia( )petos]. [An Assumed Declination: Ias, *Iados (whence Iades; *Iadikos), etc.]
 
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Recommend a good beach near Rhodes Town?

I am trying to plan my latest trip to Greece. To be honest, I don't like to plan too heavily, but I do like to know where I am staying and have a general idea of things to do. Whether or not I do them once I arrive is another story, but at least I have options.

There are a lot of beaches near Rhodes Town. Do you guys have a favorite? Some options I found:

  • Elli Beach
  • Kato Petres Beach
  • Sachtouri Beach
I am just basing this list on what I found on the Internet. I have no attachment. I love beaches that have services close or as part of the beach. Like a toilet, maybe a restaurant or cafe.

Visiting Ancient Ramiro's on Rhodes

I realized I have never seen this site and I am traveling with history buffs. I thought I'd ask you all for some advice:

  1. Best Time to Visit: What’s the best time of year to explore Ancient Kamiros to avoid the crowds but still enjoy good weather?
  2. Getting There: Are there public transportation options available, or would renting a vehicle be advisable? Any tips on parking or the best times to arrive?
  3. Must-Sees: Within the site, are there any particular spots or artifacts that are a must-see? I'm interested in capturing some great photos and soaking in the history.
  4. Tour. Should I take a tour? Anything to recommend?

Traveling to Rhodes this Year?

I have a friend who was supposed to go to Rhodes this year as part of a cruise. This isn't until September. She saw about the fires and is freaking out a little bit. The cruise company hasn't been in touch yet.

Do you guys have any advice on what she should do, so I can pass it along to her? She's not online much so I thought I'd post this for her.

Update on Rhodes after the fires?

I know that Rhodes had a rough summer. I am starting to think about planning my trip to Greece for September 2024. I don't know yet what my plan is, but I always wanted to go to Rhodes to see the Lindos Acropolis area and the Knights of Saint John. I have some people in my party who are history buffs and they would be thrilled if we finally went. We didn't go last year because of all that was going on in the island.

But, I am starting to see Rhodes appear again on Cruise itineraries, and cruising might be a possibility for us because we will be traveling with multiple generations.

For those of you who know the island well, or even might know people on the island, what do you think?

Have you been to the casino in Rhodes?

I would love to visit the casino in Rhodes! But I've never gambled in Greece, what is it like?
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