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Do any of you have questions about Greek - speaking, reading, writing, listening, grammar, pronunciation, etc? I know some of you are learning online, and being able to ask specific questions isn't something you can always do. Greek can be confusing because words have multiple meaning - e.g. the word apo (από) has at least 5-10 different meanings - and the order of the words in a sentence can in any order you want. If you have any thing that might be confusing to you or you need some clarification on please ask away and I'll do my best to answer your questions.
 
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Do any of you have questions about Greek - speaking, reading, writing, listening, grammar, pronunciation, etc? I know some of you are learning online, and being able to ask specific questions isn't something you can always do. Greek can be confusing because words have multiple meaning - e.g. the word apo (από) has at least 5-10 different meanings - and the order of the words in a sentence can in any order you want. If you have any thing that might be confusing to you or you need some clarification on please ask away and I'll do my best to answer your questions.
That is so kind of you! I personally always struggle with the use of the E's. I really don't understand when to use each one, and if there are any rules at all. Do I have to just memorize the spelling of each word?
 
There are 2 E sounds that come to mind - long e (ee) and short e (eh). There are definitely rules to follow (I don't know them all) and there are patterns that you will pick up on as you practice reading/writing. I'll keep things as simple as I can for now.

The following letters and diphthongs make the long e sound:
  • Ιι - iota - This is a neuter ending (not masculine or feminine) that generally appears at the end of a noun (excluding names) in the singular form. If you see this know it's neuter, not masculine or feminine. For example, to agori (το αγόρι) which means "the boy" or το κορίτσι which means "the girl" or "to boukali" (το μπουκάλι) which means "the bottle". I know two of these words appear to be masculine or feminine, but they only appear that way in English, not Greek. You have to toss your English thinking aside and try to think in Greek. Just because "the boy" and the "girl" are neuter, it doesn't mean their gender isn't male or female. This is just how it's written/said in Greek. I hope that makes sense
  • Υυ - ipsilon - This does not appear at the end of nouns like iota does. This will generally appear at the end of adverbs. For example, metaxi (μεταξύ) which means "between". Used in combination with omikron, you get the diphthong ου (omikron + ipsilon) and this changes the sound to "oo"
  • Ηη - ita - This is the article for feminine words and the ending for feminine nouns, and male names in the vocative form that end in ης. For example, the name "Marianthe" in Greek is "Η Μαριάνθη" which literally translates to "the Marianthe". For male names that end in ης in Greek such as John, the name in Greek is Ο Γιάννης. In Greek male names end in ς (sigma). When you're talking about a male, you always use their Greek name with the sigma at the end. So if I want to say "Where is john?" I say, "Που είναι ο Γιάννης?" But if you're speaking directly to a male in Greek, then you drop the sigma, so Giannis now becomes Gianni. - Γιάννη, θες να πας για βόλτα? (John, do you want to go for a walk?)
  • ΕΙ/ει - epsilon + iota - this is a diphthong that combines epislon (eh) with iota (ee). The most common place you'll see this is at the end of verbs that are in the "he/she/it" form. For example μιλάει (milaei) meaning "he/she/it talks" or περνάει (pernaei) meaning "he/she/it passes"
  • ΟΙ/οι - omikron + iota - this another diphthong which is omikron (oh) + iota (ee). This is usually seen in declined nouns and adjectives (making a singular noun/adjective plural). The singular form articles Ο, and H and masculine nouns/adjectives ending in ος change to οι in the plural nominative form. For example - The man is happy (ο άντρας είναι ευτυχισμένος) -> the men are happy (οι αντρες είναι ευτυχισμένοι), and the woman is happy (η γυναίκα είναι ευτυχισμένη) -> the women are happy (οι γυναίκες είναι ευτυχισμένες)
The following letters and diphthongs make the short e (eh) sound:
  • Εε (epsilon) - could appear in any word, but you'll also see it used in the vocative form of masculine some words that end in ος or at the end of a verb - Ο Γιατρος (the doctor) ->Γιατρέ. For example, γιατρέ, να παω στο νοσοκομειο? (Doctor, should I go to the hospital?).
  • ΑΙ/αι (alpha + iota) - This is a diphthong that could be used anywhere, but it is very common to see it in verbs refer to yourself (I can't remember the technical word at the moment). For example, σκέφτομαι (I think about/I am thinking about), κοιμάμαι (I sleep/I am sleeping), and κάθομαι (Ι sit/I am sitting)
 
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Wow, this is perhaps the most beautiful explanation I've ever seen. I have asked so many Greek people about it, but no one really explains it in a way that I can understand. I definitely need to practice a bit and test out my spelling with these rules, but this is definitely a great start. Thank you so much. Where did you learn all of this?
 
Wow, this is perhaps the most beautiful explanation I've ever seen. I have asked so many Greek people about it, but no one really explains it in a way that I can understand. I definitely need to practice a bit and test out my spelling with these rules, but this is definitely a great start. Thank you so much. Where did you learn all of this?
Well, they (native Greeks) haven't taken the time to think about when and where things are used because they have always known it, and they never really had to learn it like others.

It's because I'm a native English speaker who speaks Greek like a native - I'm not a native speaker, but I went to high school in Greece and did not speak it fluently before then - so I know how English speakers need things explained to them for them to understand something in Greek. I'm also married to someone born and raised in Greece, so if there is something I can't explain then I'll ask her for help.
 
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Well, they (native Greeks) haven't taken the time to think about when and where things are used because they have always known it, and they never really had to learn it like others.

It's because I'm a native English speaker who speaks Greek like a native - I'm not a native speaker, but I went to high school in Greece and did not speak it fluently before then - so I know how English speakers need things explained to them for them to understand something in Greek. I'm also married to someone born and raised in Greece, so if there is something I can't explain then I'll ask her for help.
What an interesting life story, so you were born in the states and then moved to Greece? How did you find that transition?
 
What an interesting life story, so you were born in the states and then moved to Greece? How did you find that transition?
Born and raised mostly in the USA and moved to Greece, but I already had family in Greece. I was never seen as a Greek, I was always "the American". I honestly didn't like Greece because everything is focused on Greek things for the most part and while this is nice, I didn't realize what I left behind to go to school here. As someone who is from the USA (I imagine Australia and Canada are the same), I was used to several different options of cuisine which just wasn't available in Greece, and I got tired of eating Greek food every day. At first I loved it, but after about a month I was tired of it. I started wanting Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, etc which just wasn't available in Greece and if it was then it was Hellenized so it wasn't very good. School was terrible because in the USA, for the most part everyone shuts up and listens but in Greece kids smoked in the class, did their makeup, or whatever the hell they wanted. The teachers pretty much came in with no motivation because no one paid attention. I was also spoiled by having parking lots everywhere and being able to go to large stores where anything could be found (Home Depot, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, etc...) and it's not that way there. You have to travel to several locally owned stores which all may be 30 minutes away from each other to find some things. There is so much red tape and inefficient processes that it drove me crazy. I don't care how long someone has been traveling there for vacation, it could be 50-60 years and I still won't care. When you're there as a tourist, there are things you don't have to worry about that locals have to worry about. I would never move back. All that said, while a lot of it wasn't so nice, I had some great times and made a lot of great memories.
 
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Born and raised mostly in the USA and moved to Greece, but I already had family in Greece. I was never seen as a Greek, I was always "the American". I honestly didn't like Greece because everything is focused on Greek things for the most part and while this is nice, I didn't realize what I left behind to go to school here. As someone who is from the USA (I imagine Australia and Canada are the same), I was used to several different options of cuisine which just wasn't available in Greece, and I got tired of eating Greek food every day. At first I loved it, but after about a month I was tired of it. I started wanting Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, etc which just wasn't available in Greece and if it was then it was Hellenized so it wasn't very good. School was terrible because in the USA, for the most part everyone shuts up and listens but in Greece kids smoked in the class, did their makeup, or whatever the hell they wanted. The teachers pretty much came in with no motivation because no one paid attention. I was also spoiled by having parking lots everywhere and being able to go to large stores where anything could be found (Home Depot, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, etc...) and it's not that way there. You have to travel to several locally owned stores which all may be 30 minutes away from each other to find some things. There is so much red tape and inefficient processes that it drove me crazy. I don't care how long someone has been traveling there for vacation, it could be 50-60 years and I still won't care. When you're there as a tourist, there are things you don't have to worry about that locals have to worry about. I would never move back. All that said, while a lot of it wasn't so nice, I had some great times and made a lot of great memories.
I had the same experience when visiting Greece for three weeks last year. I loved taverna food but it got so old. It’s a little easier when you can cook at home and have some more variation. But eating out can get so boring. There have been some good Asian and Middle Eastern restaraunts opening up in Athens but besides that you can only get the same old meze and fried/grilled meat and fish.
 

What Does Philotimo Mean to You?

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the word, or really, the concept, of philotimo. It’s one of those Greek words that just doesn’t translate neatly into English. I was recently trying to explain it to a non-Greek friend, and I realized how difficult it is to put into words!

I ended up talking about ideas like honor, dignity, courage, generosity, and doing the right thing because it’s simply the right thing to do. I even used some historical examples, including the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae and the spirit of Ochi Day, to try to explain the sense of duty and selflessness that I associate with philotimo.

But I know the concept can also show up in much smaller, everyday ways. How would you explain philotimo to someone unfamiliar with Greek culture? What does the word mean to you personally?

Greek Tsiknopempti Traditions?

I realized Tsiknopempti is coming up soon, and it made me curious how everyone celebrates it, especially outside of Greece. Growing up, I always associated it with grilled meat, lots of smoke in the air, and a general feeling of celebration before Lent started, but we never had a really structured tradition at home. Now I’m wondering if I should start one.

Do you usually grill at home, go out to a Greek restaurant, or gather with friends and family? Are there certain foods you always make, or is it more about the atmosphere and being together? I’ve seen photos from Greece where entire neighborhoods are grilling outside, which looks amazing.

I’d love to hear what Tsiknopempti looks like for you, whether it’s something big and festive or just a simple meal that still feels meaningful.

Why do Greeks celebrate name days?

I grew up with name days being a big deal, and I’ve always wondered why they feel more important than birthdays for so many of us. I know they’re tied to the Greek Orthodox Church feast days and the saints we’re named after, but it feels like there’s something deeper going on culturally.

In my family, name days were always open-house style, people calling, stopping by, bringing sweets, and it felt very communal. Birthdays, on the other hand, were more low-key.

Do you feel like name days still carry that same weight today? Or has it changed depending on the generation or where you live?

Do younger generations still follow traditional Greek customs?

Lately I’ve been wondering how much traditional Greek culture is still being carried forward by younger generations, both in Greece and in the diaspora.

I’m not talking only about the big holidays or major family events, but the smaller everyday things too — name days, church traditions, hospitality, family meals, fasting periods, village festivals, coffee rituals, respect for elders, even certain sayings and customs. Do younger Greeks still actively participate in these traditions, or do they mostly happen because parents and grandparents keep them going?

I imagine the answer probably depends a lot on location, family, and lifestyle. Someone growing up in a village might have a different experience than someone in Athens or abroad. I’d love to hear from people of different ages, which traditions have stayed strong, which ones are fading, and are there any that younger generations are bringing back in new ways?

What are your favorite name day traditions?

I’ve always loved the tradition of celebrating name days. In my family, they’re just as meaningful as birthdays, and sometimes even more fun because they bring everyone together in a different way.

When a big name day comes around, especially one that several family members share, we often turn it into a full family gathering. For example, on a name day like Nick/Nikolas, where there might be multiple people celebrating, it becomes almost like a mini family holiday. Someone hosts, there’s plenty of food, and everyone comes by to wish the celebrants “chronia polla.”

I also like the simplicity of the tradition. Even if there isn’t a big gathering, people still call or send messages to acknowledge the day.

Do you celebrate name days in your family? And are there certain ones that turn into larger celebrations because several people share the name?
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