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I have heard some horror stories of driving in Greece, but many of these stories took place in cities like Athens. Is this observation true?

The reason why I am asking is because I am going to be visiting Tinos soon and would like to rent a car to explore the island. I heard that this was a fantastic way to get around. Tinos is small, and to me this means the driving might not be bad.

I had a bad driving experience in Italy while in Rome, but once leaving Rome and entering the countryside it was totally fine. I'm hoping Greece is like this, too!
 
People in Athens are terrible drivers. They park anywhere they want, including sidewalks. There are traffic circles which are difficult to maneuver. No one seems to understand what the "right of way" means, though that may be an American concept. Countryside is better, mostly because there's so much less traffic. I would imagine you'd do fine driving in Tinos, especially if it's off-season, which I believe it is now. Enjoy!
 
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I have heard some horror stories of driving in Greece, but many of these stories took place in cities like Athens. Is this observation true?

The reason why I am asking is because I am going to be visiting Tinos soon and would like to rent a car to explore the island. I heard that this was a fantastic way to get around. Tinos is small, and to me this means the driving might not be bad.

I had a bad driving experience in Italy while in Rome, but once leaving Rome and entering the countryside it was totally fine. I'm hoping Greece is like this, too!
 
People everywhere are bad drivers. Italian motorways are terrifying. Corfu, where I am isn’t particularly different. Drivers use mobile devices all the time. They drive recklessly, trying to beat everyone else. Why? Because they’re stupid. Dangerous driving causes horrific crashes, but still they go, crossing double white lines in excess of the speed limit, often on blind corners. Scooterists travel with a tray of coffee in one hand & a child on their lap. Why? Because they’re stupid. So, set off earlier, idiots. But when places don’t have enough policing, what do you expect?
 
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I have heard some horror stories of driving in Greece, but many of these stories took place in cities like Athens. Is this observation true?

The reason why I am asking is because I am going to be visiting Tinos soon and would like to rent a car to explore the island. I heard that this was a fantastic way to get around. Tinos is small, and to me this means the driving might not be bad.

I had a bad driving experience in Italy while in Rome, but once leaving Rome and entering the countryside it was totally fine. I'm hoping Greece is like this, too!
No worries in Tinos....I assure you, it can be a little congested at the port with ships arriving and departing.... once you are a few kilometres outside you will be fine..... many villages to look forward to... not possible to drive fast anyways..... Enjoy your time.... try to go to Syros if you can..... another level of experience awaits you!..... Kalley Mera!
 
People everywhere are bad drivers. Italian motorways are terrifying. Corfu, where I am isn’t particularly different. Drivers use mobile devices all the time. They drive recklessly, trying to beat everyone else. Why? Because they’re stupid. Dangerous driving causes horrific crashes, but still they go, crossing double white lines in excess of the speed limit, often on blind corners. Scooterists travel with a tray of coffee in one hand & a child on their lap. Why? Because they’re stupid. So, set off earlier, idiots. But when places don’t have enough policing, what do you expect?
Good morning from Thailand Mat.... you summing up about scootertists made me laugh 😂...... here we have up to 5 on a motorcycle ..... feel sorry for poor motor bike.... you surprise me about Corfu!....I would have thought being a bigger island with wide roads drivers would be sensible which is not the case....In my years, living in Mykonos I have witnessed the most horrendous and horrific accidents and casualties....I personally had to assist in injuries!..
 
People in Athens are terrible drivers. They park anywhere they want, including sidewalks. There are traffic circles which are difficult to maneuver. No one seems to understand what the "right of way" means, though that may be an American concept. Countryside is better, mostly because there's so much less traffic. I would imagine you'd do fine driving in Tinos, especially if it's off-season, which I believe it is now. Enjoy!
Ugh - I fell into hot tailpipe on a motorcycle once in Athens and burned my leg. The driver had parked on the sidewalk and I tripped into a hole and fell on the bike. I would never drive in Athens, but I have driven in the countryside and on the islands and it's been fine. It's just Athens that's a nightmare!
 

When does tourist season end in Greece?

I am planning my next Greek trip.

I want to go in October but the people I am traveling with - we won't be able to to go until mid-October.

I have been to Crete that late in the year and to Athens, but not anywhere else. On our schedule is to visit some of the smaller islands, like Hydra.

Do places like that shut down? My main concern is, will the tourist shops be closed? I love to browse through them and it's part of my enjoyment.

Itinerary for self-planned yacht trip through the Greek islands

I am working on planning a yacht trip through Greece. I live it because I am in total control of the itinerary and what goes on, unlike booking a cruise or something. There's enough of us in the group to make this a super affordable trip.

I am developing am itinerary - thought I'd run it by you:

  1. Athens to Mykonos: Begin in the historic port of Athens and make your way to the cosmopolitan island of Mykonos. Dock at Agios Ioannis beach and take a stroll through Little Venice.
  2. Mykonos to Naxos: Naxos awaits, with its marble gateway to nowhere and beautiful beaches. Try the local kitron liqueur for a true taste of the island.
  3. Santorini: Sail to the iconic island of Santorini, where the sunset from Oia is second to none. Enjoy a swim in the hot springs of Palea Kameni and taste some of the best wines in Greece.
  4. Ios to Folegandros: Keep the vibes high in Ios known for its lively atmosphere, then find tranquility in Folegandros, where the untouched Mediterranean prevails.
  5. Return to Athens: Wrap up your adventure with a pitstop in Syros, the capital of the Cyclades. Its charm lies in its austere yet handsome neoclassical buildings and the stunning Aegean views.

What do you think? Anything to add or subtract? I have about 10 days.

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Canyoning Bled Slovenia

Hi guys!!
I'm planning to take a group canyoning Bled but apparently, it is obligatory to use a local guide. I am a canyon instructor (caf and ffme), is this enough to supervise without anyone else? I have several years of experience (climbing and canyoning) and it is obvious that I will not be able to offer this destination if it is not possible.
Thanks in advance

Cycladic Islands in Greece 'Threatened by Surge in Tourism!

Taking a culinary tour of Greece

I would like to take a tour or create my own itinerary to do nothing but visit Greece to eat all the food. I want to go to some unique and memorable destinations. For many reasons, both Ikaria and Crete are on my list. I will have maybe two weeks in Greece so I truly don't have the itinerary fleshes out. Or if anyone can recommend a tour company, that would be good too.

Some questions:

Best Time to Visit: What's the ideal time of year for such a tour, considering weather, food seasons, and avoiding peak tourist crowds?
Must-Visit Places: Besides the obvious choices like Athens and Santorini, are there any off-the-beaten-path locations that are a foodie's dream?
Local Experiences: Are there particular cooking classes, food markets, or local farms that offer a deeper dive into Greek cuisine and its preparation?
Travel Tips: Any logistical tips for traveling within Greece that might make moving from one culinary destination to another smoother?

Thanks in advance!
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