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What is the most debated topic in Greek history?

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I'd love to start a couple of debates and great conversations! I'm definitely not looking for a fight, just trying to have some engaging conversations. What are the biggest debates that you and your friends or family get into about Greek history?
 
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I'd love to start a couple of debates and great conversations! I'm definitely not looking for a fight, just trying to have some engaging conversations. What are the biggest debates that you and your friends or family get into about Greek history?
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We don't really debate, we're pretty much in agreement. We LOVE talking about the Spartans especially, and in general, the Second Persian Invasion and its many battles.
 
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