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Now here's an interesting discussion to be had..... This is from Thailand.... What are the views about our Greek community?
 
Now here's an interesting discussion to be had..... This is from Thailand.... What are the views about our Greek community?
Im assuming that what is considered "beautiful" has changed a lot over time, because it changes from country to country. So it is pretty hard to tell..what do you think?
 
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Im assuming that what is considered "beautiful" has changed a lot over time, because it changes from country to country. So it is pretty hard to tell..what do you think?
Very much so! Beauty is in Eye of the beholder, here with Cleopatra we can see that the image creaters have made here very attractive and seductive for the movies,we all know in real life she was very different,as she had a reputation of being ruthless,I am not well informed about History or Mythology but the treatment which Julius Caesar got from her tells a few tales.Coming back to beauty and beautiful people I have seen so many in Mykonos having lived many years,and as you rightfully say it varies with each country.We were just discussing this yesterday that we have some younger generation singers who are so very stunning and creative in dancing etc,who might not appeal to folks living in the West!
 
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Very much so! Beauty is in Eye of the beholder, here with Cleopatra we can see that the image creaters have made here very attractive and seductive for the movies,we all know in real life she was very different,as she had a reputation of being ruthless,I am not well informed about History or Mythology but the treatment which Julius Caesar got from her tells a few tales.Coming back to beauty and beautiful people I have seen so many in Mykonos having lived many years,and as you rightfully say it varies with each country.We were just discussing this yesterday that we have some younger generation singers who are so very stunning and creative in dancing etc,who might not appeal to folks living in the West!
I always imagined her being timelessly beautiful, not in a sexy way but in a regal and royal type of way
 
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I always imagined her being timelessly beautiful, not in a sexy way but in a regal and royal type of way
Her powers and authority were her beauty,I think and her charm!and charisma...❤️
 

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