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So I was out with some Greek friends the other night, and one of them ordered kalamaki. I figured it was just another version of souvlaki, but they gave me that “you clearly don’t know” look. Now I’m wondering, what’s the actual difference? I’ve always thought souvlaki was the catch-all term for grilled meat on a stick, but they acted like kalamaki is its own thing.

Is it a regional thing? Is kalamaki a type of souvlaki, or are they completely different? Does it depend on whether it’s served on a stick, in pita, or on a plate? It seems like the same thing to me, but there might be some differences?
 
So I was out with some Greek friends the other night, and one of them ordered kalamaki. I figured it was just another version of souvlaki, but they gave me that “you clearly don’t know” look. Now I’m wondering, what’s the actual difference? I’ve always thought souvlaki was the catch-all term for grilled meat on a stick, but they acted like kalamaki is its own thing.

Is it a regional thing? Is kalamaki a type of souvlaki, or are they completely different? Does it depend on whether it’s served on a stick, in pita, or on a plate? It seems like the same thing to me, but there might be some differences?
  • In Athens:
    • Kalamaki = skewer
    • Souvlaki = the full wrap
  • In Thessaloniki and northern Greece (and even abroad in Greek-American diners):
    • Souvlaki = the skewer
    • The word kalamaki might confuse them entirely or just be seen as too “Athenian”
 
Great question, and yes, your Greek friends were probably teasing you a bit over one of Greece’s classic regional food debates! Technically, kalamaki and souvlaki refer to the same thing: grilled meat on a skewer. But the name depends heavily on where you are in Greece.

In Athens and much of southern Greece, people call the skewer “kalamaki” (which literally means "little reed," referring to the stick). In northern Greece, especially Thessaloniki, the same thing is called “souvlaki.” So if you’re in Athens and order “souvlaki,” they’ll likely assume you mean the full pita wrap with meat, toppings, and sauce—unless you specify “kalamaki.”

To add to the fun, “souvlaki” can also be used as a general term across the country for meat grilled in various ways—whether on a stick, in a pita, or on a plate. So you’re not wrong… just caught in a regional food rivalry!
 

Do You Make Avgolemono Thick or Brothy?

I usually prefer avgolemono somewhere in the middle. I don’t like it so thick that it feels almost like a cream soup, but I also don’t want it completely thin and brothy. For me, the best version has enough egg and lemon to give the broth some body while still keeping it light.

A lot probably depends on what kind of avgolemono you’re making, too. In chicken soup, I like it a little more brothy because I want the rice or orzo and chicken to still stand out. With something like lahanodolmades, I don’t mind the avgolemono sauce being thicker because it is coating the food rather than serving as the soup itself.

The lemon level matters just as much as the thickness. I like enough lemon to make it bright and noticeable, but not so much that it overwhelms everything else. I think balance is really the key.

What herbs do you use when making Greek stuffed zucchini?

I've been thinking about making Greek stuffed zucchini (kolokithakia gemista), and I'm curious about which herbs everyone uses in the filling. I've seen quite a few variations, and it seems like the combination of herbs can really influence the overall flavor of the dish.

Some recipes use plenty of fresh dill and parsley, while others include mint or even a little oregano. I've also noticed that some people add green onions for extra flavor. I'm wondering whether certain herbs are considered more traditional, especially when making stuffed zucchini with rice and ground meat.

Do you use a combination of herbs, or do you prefer to keep the seasoning fairly simple? Does your family have a particular recipe that has been passed down through generations?

I'm especially interested in how the herbs complement the avgolemono sauce. What combination do you think gives Greek stuffed zucchini the best flavor?

My Family’s Keftedes Recipe

Keftedes are one of those foods that always remind me of family gatherings. Everyone seems to make them a little differently, but this is the basic version my family has always used.

For about a pound of ground beef, we add one small grated onion, a handful of chopped fresh parsley, a little fresh mint, one egg, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper, oregano, and a small splash of red wine vinegar. Sometimes we add a little grated garlic as well.

The important part is mixing everything well and then letting the mixture sit in the refrigerator for a little while before shaping the keftedes. We make them fairly small, roll them lightly in flour, and fry them in olive oil until browned on the outside and cooked through.

We usually serve them with lemon, potatoes, salad, or tzatziki.

How does your family make keftedes? I’m especially curious about which herbs and seasonings everyone uses. Thought I'd share!

Greek cooking without a recipe?

I've been thinking about how much traditional Greek cooking relies on instinct rather than following exact recipes. Some of the Greek dishes I learned to make were taught to me by feel, with someone showing me what to do rather than measuring everything out.

I actually enjoy cooking this way, but I've noticed that it can make certain dishes difficult to recreate consistently! Sometimes everything comes together perfectly, and other times I wonder what I did differently.

I'm curious how others approach this. Did you learn Greek cooking by watching your yiayia, mother, or other relatives? Do you measure ingredients, or do you just know when something looks, smells, or tastes right?

Is lamb or beef more traditional for giouvetsi?

I've been looking into traditional Greek giouvetsi recipes lately, and I'm curious about which meat is considered the most traditional. I've seen recipes that use lamb, others that call for beef, and even some that use chicken.

I love the idea of slowly cooking the meat in a rich tomato sauce with orzo until everything becomes tender and flavorful. However, I'm wondering whether lamb or beef would be the more authentic choice.

Is one traditionally preferred in certain regions of Greece? I've read that lamb is often associated with older Greek recipes, but beef seems to be very common in modern versions of giouvetsi.

I'm also curious whether the choice of meat changes the way the dish is prepared. Does lamb require different seasonings or cooking times than beef?

For those familiar with traditional Greek cooking, which version do you prefer, and which would you recommend trying first?
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