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John D

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Preliminarily planning a belated 50th Anniversary Trip 3 years later from Phila, PA to Crete for late August/ early September and trying to find the "best connections". Length of stay at least 8 - 10 days, depending on the connections. So far I see PHL to ATH is 9 1/2 hours, ATH to Crete is 50 minutes. PHL to London is 6+ hours, London to Crete 5+ hours. While total times are within a couple of hours of each other, also trying to factor in the wear & tear on these ole bods. Will be using American Airline miles so that will restrict carriers. Would appreciate any suggesttions/recommendations from anyone that's made this trek. Thank you in advance!
 
I have trekked from Boston to Crete. In one trip, we had a layover in Zurich, and then spent I think two nights in Athens. From there we took an overnight Ferry to Crete - had a sleeping cabin. I liked it, it was relaxing, but I made the mistake of checking my luggage and I should have kept it with me - getting the luggage after the ferry ride was pure chaos. You are lucky that you seem to be able to go direct to Athens and then another flight to Crete. I would have been in a situation of having two layovers - one in Zurich, and another in Athens, before flying to Crete, which is why I ended up on the Ferry. At the time they didn't seem to have many (if there even were any) options for a direct flight. I recommend the ferry as an option, actually, especially if you think you might want to spend some time in Athens.
 
I have trekked from Boston to Crete. In one trip, we had a layover in Zurich, and then spent I think two nights in Athens. From there we took an overnight Ferry to Crete - had a sleeping cabin. I liked it, it was relaxing, but I made the mistake of checking my luggage and I should have kept it with me - getting the luggage after the ferry ride was pure chaos. You are lucky that you seem to be able to go direct to Athens and then another flight to Crete. I would have been in a situation of having two layovers - one in Zurich, and another in Athens, before flying to Crete, which is why I ended up on the Ferry. At the time they didn't seem to have many (if there even were any) options for a direct flight. I recommend the ferry as an option, actually, especially if you think you might want to spend some time in Athens.
k - thank you for your prompt reply! Since I posted, found AA flys @ 6:30 P, arriving 11:00 A next day. While I find out how much time to clear customs, looking into flights to Crete (only 50 minutes). As of now thinking of banging it out in 1 marathon (since it's Greece *S*) trip. Since my planning is in the preliminary stage, I'm interested in exploring the ferry option you mention. Thanks again! John
 
The best option when arriving in Athens from North America is to find a connecting flight to your final destination in Greece
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Regional flights are operated mainly by Aegean/Olympic or Sky Express.
AA not having a codeshare agreement with these two airlines (with the Sky Alliance group), you will have 2 tickets. One for Athens and another for Athens-Crete. And therefore have to collect your checked baggage in Athens to register it on the Athens-Crete flight.

With a United flight which is part of the Sky Alliance group you could find a USA-Crete flight in one ticket. Your luggage would then be sent directly to Crete.

As you are coming from a non-Schengen area, you will have to go through passport control. Customs control is only necessary if you have something specific to declare. If not, take the "nothing to declare" exit.

Athens Airport is a single building that is fairly easy to use. Once your luggage collected, go through the controls, then simply go upstairs (Departures level) and find the counters corresponding to your destination.

With Aegean/ Olympic you can check in via the app 48 hours before your flight and get your boarding pass on your smartphone.


2h30 hours is a minimum for a layover if you have checked baggage.
3H / 3H30 is probably safer in case your USA-Athens flight is delayed, especially since you arrive in high season.
 
Preliminarily planning a belated 50th Anniversary Trip 3 years later from Phila, PA to Crete for late August/ early September and trying to find the "best connections". Length of stay at least 8 - 10 days, depending on the connections. So far I see PHL to ATH is 9 1/2 hours, ATH to Crete is 50 minutes. PHL to London is 6+ hours, London to Crete 5+ hours. While total times are within a couple of hours of each other, also trying to factor in the wear & tear on these ole bods. Will be using American Airline miles so that will restrict carriers. Would appreciate any suggesttions/recommendations from anyone that's made this trek. Thank you in advance!
There is more than one airport in Crete, as you may know.

When you talk about wear and tear, avoiding the Athens Airport is a plus. We flew Philly to Frankfort to Santorini a few years back. On the way back, we stayed near the Athens Airport one night (at the Holiday Inn, actually) before returning to Philly.

If you are going to stay in Athens overnight, be careful that you aren't overweight with your domestic flight.
 
The best option when arriving in Athens from North America is to find a connecting flight to your final destination in Greece
.
Regional flights are operated mainly by Aegean/Olympic or Sky Express.
AA not having a codeshare agreement with these two airlines (with the Sky Alliance group), you will have 2 tickets. One for Athens and another for Athens-Crete. And therefore have to collect your checked baggage in Athens to register it on the Athens-Crete flight.

With a United flight which is part of the Sky Alliance group you could find a USA-Crete flight in one ticket. Your luggage would then be sent directly to Crete.

As you are coming from a non-Schengen area, you will have to go through passport control. Customs control is only necessary if you have something specific to declare. If not, take the "nothing to declare" exit.

Athens Airport is a single building that is fairly easy to use. Once your luggage collected, go through the controls, then simply go upstairs (Departures level) and find the counters corresponding to your destination.

With Aegean/ Olympic you can check in via the app 48 hours before your flight and get your boarding pass on your smartphone.


2h30 hours is a minimum for a layover if you have checked baggage.
3H / 3H30 is probably safer in case your USA-Athens flight is delayed, especially since you arrive in high season.
Jolui - thank you for your interest. Ideally would use United for the single ticket but for this trip using AA bonus miles. And appreciate the smartphone tip. John
 
There is more than one airport in Crete, as you may know.

When you talk about wear and tear, avoiding the Athens Airport is a plus. We flew Philly to Frankfort to Santorini a few years back. On the way back, we stayed near the Athens Airport one night (at the Holiday Inn, actually) before returning to Philly.

If you are going to stay in Athens overnight, be careful that you aren't overweight with your domestic flight.
Hi Nick, and thank you for your interest. Preference for Athens airport because of PHL direct flight and ability to reach Crete the same day we land. We'll be staying in Athens overnight for US departure - why would that affect weight?
 
Hi Nick, and thank you for your interest. Preference for Athens airport because of PHL direct flight and ability to reach Crete the same day we land. We'll be staying in Athens overnight for US departure - why would that affect weight?
When you are leaving there is not a problem

It is when you go to Greece that you may find domestic flights which have a lower weight limit than for international flights. Years ago, an exception would be made for international travelers but that is no longer the case. It can be quite costly if you are paying for overweight bags on a European domestic flight.
 
When you are leaving there is not a problem

It is when you go to Greece that you may find domestic flights which have a lower weight limit than for international flights. Years ago, an exception would be made for international travelers but that is no longer the case. It can be quite costly if you are paying for overweight bags on a European domestic flight.
Nick - again - thank you! Good to know.
 
Pay particular attention to Athens Crete flights offered by low cost airlines such as Ryanair which charges up to 40€ for a maximum 20kg check-in bag.
(which can sometimes double the initial price)
 
Pay particular attention to Athens Crete flights offered by low cost airlines such as Ryanair which charges up to 40€ for a maximum 20kg check-in bag.
(which can sometimes double the initial price)
Jolui, thank you. In the planning stage was only considering Olympic & Sky Express - I believe I can arrive in Chania & depart from Heraklion with those 2.
 

Question about scuba diving in Greece

I'm currently planning a trip to Greece, a destination that has long been on my bucket list, not just for its history and cuisine, but especially for the scuba diving experiences it offers. I've heard that Greece boasts some incredible underwater landscapes, from vibrant marine life to fascinating wrecks.

Given the vastness of Greece's coastline, I thought I would try to see the country in a different way.

Let's say I want to go scuba diving in a particular island. How do I go about doing it?

Finding Good Food Tours of Greece?

I love Greek cuisine. I cook it all the time and I love trying new recipes. The time has come for me to think about planning a food tour! Does anyone have any advice?

I would love to hear from members of this forum about their experiences with food tours in Greece.
  1. Which regions or cities offer the best food tours?
  2. Any specific food tour companies or guides that you would recommend?
  3. What were some of the standout dishes or culinary experiences on your tour?
  4. Are there options for people with dietary restrictions, such as vegetarians?
  5. What should one expect in terms of cost and duration?
Any tips or advice on how to get the most out of such a tour would be greatly appreciated too! Thanks!

Pack List for Trip to Greece in Spring

I have a trip to Greece planned in the spring. Mainly, I want advice on the weather. In the meantime, I made my best guess and came up with a list. Anything to add or subtract?

Clothing
  • A light rain jacket or windbreaker: For the inevitable April showers
  • A couple of long-sleeve shirts: For those cooler mornings
  • A lightweight sweater: For layering when temperature changes
  • A pair of comfortable pants: Think breathable fabrics like cotton, and a pair of jeans.
  • Shorts and a sundress: For warmer afternoons
  • Comfortable walking shoes: You’ll be exploring villages and ancient ruins, so cushioned soles are a must.
Accessories
  • A versatile scarf: Can double as a shawl on cooler evenings
  • A wide-brimmed hat: For sun protection
  • Sunglasses and sunscreen: Essential for beach days
  • Reusable water bottle: To stay hydrated without contributing more waste

Canyoning Bled Slovenia

Hi guys!!
I'm planning to take a group canyoning Bled but apparently, it is obligatory to use a local guide. I am a canyon instructor (caf and ffme), is this enough to supervise without anyone else? I have several years of experience (climbing and canyoning) and it is obvious that I will not be able to offer this destination if it is not possible.
Thanks in advance

Is Marathon a good day trip from Athens?

I've been planning an itinerary for my upcoming trip to Athens, and I've always been fascinated by the historical significance of Marathon. Considering its role in ancient history and the famous battle that took place there, it seems like a place that might be worth a visit.

However, I'm on the fence about dedicating a whole day trip to Marathon. From what I understand, it isn’t too far from Athens, but I'm trying to weigh up whether the experience is worthy compared to spending that time exploring more within the city itself.

Has anyone made the day trip to Marathon from Athens? Was it an enriching experience, and what are the can't-miss sights? Is the archeological site/museum there engaging enough for a history buff? Also, how about the logistics – is it easy to get to by public transport, or would you suggest renting a car or going with a tour?

I am just trying to decide if it's worth it, or if I should plan to stay overnight. Thanks!


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