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John D

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Preliminarily planning a belated 50th Anniversary Trip 3 years later from Phila, PA to Crete for late August/ early September and trying to find the "best connections". Length of stay at least 8 - 10 days, depending on the connections. So far I see PHL to ATH is 9 1/2 hours, ATH to Crete is 50 minutes. PHL to London is 6+ hours, London to Crete 5+ hours. While total times are within a couple of hours of each other, also trying to factor in the wear & tear on these ole bods. Will be using American Airline miles so that will restrict carriers. Would appreciate any suggesttions/recommendations from anyone that's made this trek. Thank you in advance!
 
I have trekked from Boston to Crete. In one trip, we had a layover in Zurich, and then spent I think two nights in Athens. From there we took an overnight Ferry to Crete - had a sleeping cabin. I liked it, it was relaxing, but I made the mistake of checking my luggage and I should have kept it with me - getting the luggage after the ferry ride was pure chaos. You are lucky that you seem to be able to go direct to Athens and then another flight to Crete. I would have been in a situation of having two layovers - one in Zurich, and another in Athens, before flying to Crete, which is why I ended up on the Ferry. At the time they didn't seem to have many (if there even were any) options for a direct flight. I recommend the ferry as an option, actually, especially if you think you might want to spend some time in Athens.
 
I have trekked from Boston to Crete. In one trip, we had a layover in Zurich, and then spent I think two nights in Athens. From there we took an overnight Ferry to Crete - had a sleeping cabin. I liked it, it was relaxing, but I made the mistake of checking my luggage and I should have kept it with me - getting the luggage after the ferry ride was pure chaos. You are lucky that you seem to be able to go direct to Athens and then another flight to Crete. I would have been in a situation of having two layovers - one in Zurich, and another in Athens, before flying to Crete, which is why I ended up on the Ferry. At the time they didn't seem to have many (if there even were any) options for a direct flight. I recommend the ferry as an option, actually, especially if you think you might want to spend some time in Athens.
k - thank you for your prompt reply! Since I posted, found AA flys @ 6:30 P, arriving 11:00 A next day. While I find out how much time to clear customs, looking into flights to Crete (only 50 minutes). As of now thinking of banging it out in 1 marathon (since it's Greece *S*) trip. Since my planning is in the preliminary stage, I'm interested in exploring the ferry option you mention. Thanks again! John
 
The best option when arriving in Athens from North America is to find a connecting flight to your final destination in Greece
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Regional flights are operated mainly by Aegean/Olympic or Sky Express.
AA not having a codeshare agreement with these two airlines (with the Sky Alliance group), you will have 2 tickets. One for Athens and another for Athens-Crete. And therefore have to collect your checked baggage in Athens to register it on the Athens-Crete flight.

With a United flight which is part of the Sky Alliance group you could find a USA-Crete flight in one ticket. Your luggage would then be sent directly to Crete.

As you are coming from a non-Schengen area, you will have to go through passport control. Customs control is only necessary if you have something specific to declare. If not, take the "nothing to declare" exit.

Athens Airport is a single building that is fairly easy to use. Once your luggage collected, go through the controls, then simply go upstairs (Departures level) and find the counters corresponding to your destination.

With Aegean/ Olympic you can check in via the app 48 hours before your flight and get your boarding pass on your smartphone.


2h30 hours is a minimum for a layover if you have checked baggage.
3H / 3H30 is probably safer in case your USA-Athens flight is delayed, especially since you arrive in high season.
 
Preliminarily planning a belated 50th Anniversary Trip 3 years later from Phila, PA to Crete for late August/ early September and trying to find the "best connections". Length of stay at least 8 - 10 days, depending on the connections. So far I see PHL to ATH is 9 1/2 hours, ATH to Crete is 50 minutes. PHL to London is 6+ hours, London to Crete 5+ hours. While total times are within a couple of hours of each other, also trying to factor in the wear & tear on these ole bods. Will be using American Airline miles so that will restrict carriers. Would appreciate any suggesttions/recommendations from anyone that's made this trek. Thank you in advance!
There is more than one airport in Crete, as you may know.

When you talk about wear and tear, avoiding the Athens Airport is a plus. We flew Philly to Frankfort to Santorini a few years back. On the way back, we stayed near the Athens Airport one night (at the Holiday Inn, actually) before returning to Philly.

If you are going to stay in Athens overnight, be careful that you aren't overweight with your domestic flight.
 
The best option when arriving in Athens from North America is to find a connecting flight to your final destination in Greece
.
Regional flights are operated mainly by Aegean/Olympic or Sky Express.
AA not having a codeshare agreement with these two airlines (with the Sky Alliance group), you will have 2 tickets. One for Athens and another for Athens-Crete. And therefore have to collect your checked baggage in Athens to register it on the Athens-Crete flight.

With a United flight which is part of the Sky Alliance group you could find a USA-Crete flight in one ticket. Your luggage would then be sent directly to Crete.

As you are coming from a non-Schengen area, you will have to go through passport control. Customs control is only necessary if you have something specific to declare. If not, take the "nothing to declare" exit.

Athens Airport is a single building that is fairly easy to use. Once your luggage collected, go through the controls, then simply go upstairs (Departures level) and find the counters corresponding to your destination.

With Aegean/ Olympic you can check in via the app 48 hours before your flight and get your boarding pass on your smartphone.


2h30 hours is a minimum for a layover if you have checked baggage.
3H / 3H30 is probably safer in case your USA-Athens flight is delayed, especially since you arrive in high season.
Jolui - thank you for your interest. Ideally would use United for the single ticket but for this trip using AA bonus miles. And appreciate the smartphone tip. John
 
There is more than one airport in Crete, as you may know.

When you talk about wear and tear, avoiding the Athens Airport is a plus. We flew Philly to Frankfort to Santorini a few years back. On the way back, we stayed near the Athens Airport one night (at the Holiday Inn, actually) before returning to Philly.

If you are going to stay in Athens overnight, be careful that you aren't overweight with your domestic flight.
Hi Nick, and thank you for your interest. Preference for Athens airport because of PHL direct flight and ability to reach Crete the same day we land. We'll be staying in Athens overnight for US departure - why would that affect weight?
 
Hi Nick, and thank you for your interest. Preference for Athens airport because of PHL direct flight and ability to reach Crete the same day we land. We'll be staying in Athens overnight for US departure - why would that affect weight?
When you are leaving there is not a problem

It is when you go to Greece that you may find domestic flights which have a lower weight limit than for international flights. Years ago, an exception would be made for international travelers but that is no longer the case. It can be quite costly if you are paying for overweight bags on a European domestic flight.
 
When you are leaving there is not a problem

It is when you go to Greece that you may find domestic flights which have a lower weight limit than for international flights. Years ago, an exception would be made for international travelers but that is no longer the case. It can be quite costly if you are paying for overweight bags on a European domestic flight.
Nick - again - thank you! Good to know.
 
Pay particular attention to Athens Crete flights offered by low cost airlines such as Ryanair which charges up to 40€ for a maximum 20kg check-in bag.
(which can sometimes double the initial price)
 
Pay particular attention to Athens Crete flights offered by low cost airlines such as Ryanair which charges up to 40€ for a maximum 20kg check-in bag.
(which can sometimes double the initial price)
Jolui, thank you. In the planning stage was only considering Olympic & Sky Express - I believe I can arrive in Chania & depart from Heraklion with those 2.
 

Visit the Cyclades Islands - Information and Tips?

I am thinking of visiting some of the Cyclades islands this summer. I've, of course, already done Santorini and Mykonos. I want to do something a bit different.

I am thinking of the following:

- Tinos
- Naxos
- Milos
- Paros

I have some questions:

- When is the best time to visit? I am thinking of going in September.
- Should I ferry hop? That's probably the best way, right?
- How do I figure out where to stay? I love Airbnb - is that an option in Greece?

Thanks in advance!

Tips for Traveling to Greece on a Budget

Traveling to Greece is a dream for many, conjuring images of stunning beaches, ancient ruins, and vibrant Mediterranean culture. However, experiencing the wonders Greece has to offer doesn’t have to break the bank. Let's face it - it can be expensive to get there - especially if you are traveling from outside of Europe and during peak season. Keeping these tips in mind, though, can help you cut costs.

1. Travel During the Off-Peak Season

One of the best ways to save money while traveling to Greece is by going during the off-peak season, which is typically from October to April. Not only will you benefit from lower prices in flights and accommodations, but you'll also escape the heavy tourist crowds, allowing for a more authentic experience of Greece's beauty and culture.

2. Opt for Lesser-Known Destinations

While Athens, Mykonos, and Santorini are must-visit destinations, Greece is filled with hidden gems that are often overlooked. Consider visiting the Peloponnese region, Meteora, or even the northern part of the country, like Thessaloniki and the Chalkidiki Peninsula. These areas offer breathtaking views, historical sites, and genuine interactions with local culture at a fraction of the cost.

3. Use Public Transportation

Greece’s public transportation system is both efficient and affordable. Ferries can take you between islands at a good rate, especially if you book in advance. On land, buses and trains connect major cities and regions. Utilizing these options instead of renting a car or taking flights can significantly reduce your travel costs.

4. Savor Local Eats

Another great way to save while indulging in the richness of Greek culture is through its cuisine. Avoid tourist traps and opt for where the locals eat. Tavernas and street food vendors offer delicious and authentic Greek food for much less than restaurants in high-traffic tourist areas. Don’t skip on trying the gyros, souvlaki, and the myriad of seafood options.

5. Stay in Budget Accommodations

Greece offers a wide array of budget-friendly accommodations, ranging from hostels to budget hotels and Airbnb listings. Booking in advance can secure you a better deal, especially if traveling during the peak season. Consider staying in a location slightly off the beaten path; you might discover a quaint neighborhood or a breathtaking beach that’s not swarmed by tourists.

Traveling to Greece on a budget is more than feasible with a bit of planning and some savvy travel hacks. By following these tips, you can immerse yourself in the rich history, stunning landscapes, and warm hospitality Greece is renowned for, all while keeping your expenses in check. Remember, the essence of travel is not in how much you spend, but in the experiences you gather and the memories you create.

Last-minute travel tips in Greece

I love to travel to Greece and I do so whenever I can. There's an art to it, though, and I am never really going into it "blind". It's a good idea to start by thinking generally about where you might want to go.

Athens is usually the starting point for most travelers, with its iconic Acropolis offering panoramic views and a history lesson all in one spot. If you're a beach lover, head towards the Cyclades for stunning beaches and the classic, postcard-worthy Santorini sunsets. Or, if it's history you're after, the ruins of Delphi or the ancient city of Mycenae will surely captivate you.

Then, we need to figure out how to get where we want to go. For island hopping, the ferries are an experience in themselves – though if you're time-strapped, consider a local flight to get you to the major islands quickly. On the mainland, a mix of car rentals and public transport can be efficient and economical, especially when visiting sites off the tourist map. Keep an eye on the schedules and book in advance if possible to save time.

Sometimes I rent a car, to be honest it's the easiest for me.

The rest of the details tend to sort themselves out. For example, you can book your lodging as you go along, especially off-peak.

Sustainable Travel to Greece?

I'm currently planning a trip to Greece and am passionate about making my travel as sustainable and eco-friendly as possible. Given the beauty and historical significance of Greece, I want to ensure that my visit contributes positively to the environment and local communities there.

Does anyone have any tips or experiences they could share on sustainable travel practices in Greece? I'm looking for advice on everything from eco-friendly accommodations, sustainable dining options, to ways of exploring the country that minimize my carbon footprint. Also, if there are specific activities or tours that support local conservation efforts or communities, I'd love to hear about those too!

Tips for visiting monasteries in Greece

While visiting the monasteries, remember you are in a sacred place. Dress modestly, with legs and shoulders covered, to show respect for the local customs and faith. Keep your voice low to preserve the peaceful ambiance and adhere to any photography restrictions to respect the privacy of the monks.

I've had some people ask me, so I thought I'd start a post about etiquette. If you are out taking tours and you don't dress properly, be sure to look for a scarf or skirt (for the ladies) that they may provide to make you respectable enough to enter the space. It's far better, though, to dress properly in your own wardrobe!

Loud talking is a no-no. It's also a good idea to observe Orthodox customs when entering the sacred space, even if you aren't Orthodox. Non-orthodox may venerate icons, light candles, submit prayer requests, etc.

Can anyone think of anything else to add?
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