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There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
 
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There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
So interesting how all of these traditions are related. Many forget that there are Greeks of many different religions, and we should always be united and appreciative of all of our cultures and traditions
 
There are ethnic customs, beliefs, and other "cultural items" that are preserved within the culture that produced them, wherefore they are presently TRADITIONS. On the other hand, cultual items can be exported (or can be adopted by a foreign ethnic people). So, a given country or people may have a mixture of aboriginal culture and adopted [e.g., Greek] culture. What is adopted is somebody else's aboriginal culture. HANNUKAH is a festivity that Jews around the world celebrate/enact in December, more or less before Christmas. The specific form of the celebration (words aside) was invented by them; it is Jewish aboriginally: A tray with seven oil lamps, or a clay tray shaped with seven cups to serve as oil lamps, or a metallic candelabrum that holds seven candles [a menorah] is lit in successive evenings. In more recent times, the number of luminaries [lucernae in Medieval Christian temples at night] was changed to nine, because they explained the lighting ritual as the celebration of nine Biblical patriarchs,while explaining the whole festivity [Feast of Lights] --Hannukah -- by an ancient miracle: a lamp kept on burning in the temple, even hough it had run out of oil. Well, in ancient times, migrating Dorians settled in the region called Palestine, where they kept their tradition of celebrating their seven planetary gods (natural luminaries), In effect, they instituted the holy WEEK: the day of the moon/Artemis, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Aphrodite, Chronos, Sun/Apollon (named differently in Latin). The Hebrews recognized only one God [Zeus/Yahweh] but kept the idea of the Week. I say: They thought of the seven days of creation, that is, six days of work, and on day of rest, the Shabat, devoted to Yahweh. Hannukah was originally the feast of creation, not of lights or of the Hebrew patriarchs. [The Christian "Holy week" is nominally derived from the Dorian Week, Ebdomas, but at least in the Latin liturgy I know of, only on one day, Holy Thurday, creation is celebrated by reading the Biblical account, Genesis, in church.] It must have been the same Dorians that built Zion, the temple of Zeus on one of the hills of Jerusalem, later rededicated by Solomon. Dorian works: the temple of Zeus at Dodona. The statue of the solar Apollo at Rhodes..... {The number "Seven" became a magical or lucky number.}
What a wonderful contribution here...I wish I could add more here but all my books, and I have tons of them are still in Mykonos... Thank you kindly for informative and inspiring reading!
 
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What a wonderful contribution here...I wish I could add more here but all my books, and I have tons of them are still in Mykonos... Thank you kindly for informative and inspiring reading!
Do you remember names of books that any that you can recommend??
 

Anyone here struggle with outpatient rehab not being enough?

I’m curious if anyone else has been through this. I’ve been trying to get sober for a while now and started with a standard outpatient program because it seemed easier to balance with work and daily life. At first it felt okay, but after a couple weeks I noticed I was slipping back into old habits way faster than I expected.
It kinda feels like once the session is over, you’re just thrown back into the same environment with very little structure or support. I’m starting to wonder if outpatient is just too “light” for some people, especially if relapse has already happened before.
Has anyone here switched from regular outpatient to something more structured like IOP or medication-assisted treatment? Did it actually make a difference, or was it just more time in treatment with the same results?
Would really appreciate hearing real experiences — good or bad.

Greek Tsiknopempti Traditions?

I realized Tsiknopempti is coming up soon, and it made me curious how everyone celebrates it, especially outside of Greece. Growing up, I always associated it with grilled meat, lots of smoke in the air, and a general feeling of celebration before Lent started, but we never had a really structured tradition at home. Now I’m wondering if I should start one.

Do you usually grill at home, go out to a Greek restaurant, or gather with friends and family? Are there certain foods you always make, or is it more about the atmosphere and being together? I’ve seen photos from Greece where entire neighborhoods are grilling outside, which looks amazing.

I’d love to hear what Tsiknopempti looks like for you, whether it’s something big and festive or just a simple meal that still feels meaningful.

Does your family make fanouropita for Saint Phanourios Day?

I recently saw a news article about Saint Fanourios Day, and it showed people bringing fanouropita cakes to a church to be blessed. I knew about fanouropita and the tradition of making it when you’re hoping to find something that has been lost, but I didn’t realize how much of a church tradition it could be on the saint’s feast day itself.

Does your family make fanouropita for Saint Fanourios Day? If so, do you bring the cake to church to be blessed, or do you usually make it at home and share it with family and friends?

I’m also curious whether this is something that is still widely done in Greece or if it depends on the region, parish, or family. Are there any other traditions your family follows for Saint Fanourios Day?

I’d love to hear how people observe the day and whether fanouropita is part of your family’s tradition.

Why do Greeks celebrate name days?

I grew up with name days being a big deal, and I’ve always wondered why they feel more important than birthdays for so many of us. I know they’re tied to the Greek Orthodox Church feast days and the saints we’re named after, but it feels like there’s something deeper going on culturally.

In my family, name days were always open-house style, people calling, stopping by, bringing sweets, and it felt very communal. Birthdays, on the other hand, were more low-key.

Do you feel like name days still carry that same weight today? Or has it changed depending on the generation or where you live?

What are your favorite name day traditions?

I’ve always loved the tradition of celebrating name days. In my family, they’re just as meaningful as birthdays, and sometimes even more fun because they bring everyone together in a different way.

When a big name day comes around, especially one that several family members share, we often turn it into a full family gathering. For example, on a name day like Nick/Nikolas, where there might be multiple people celebrating, it becomes almost like a mini family holiday. Someone hosts, there’s plenty of food, and everyone comes by to wish the celebrants “chronia polla.”

I also like the simplicity of the tradition. Even if there isn’t a big gathering, people still call or send messages to acknowledge the day.

Do you celebrate name days in your family? And are there certain ones that turn into larger celebrations because several people share the name?
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