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I have been wondering, was the Trojan War real? I decided to explore the topic. I still don't know. What do you guys think?

Let's start with the basics. According to ancient Greek mythology, the Trojan War was fought between the Greeks and the Trojans over Helen of Troy. Helen, the wife of King Menelaus, was said to be the most beautiful woman in the world. When she was kidnapped by Paris of Troy, her husband called upon the Greek army to help him get her back. The war lasted ten years, according to the myth, and ended with the Greeks claiming victory when they used a wooden horse to get inside the walls of Troy.

It's easy to dismiss this story as nothing more than a legend, but there is some archaeological evidence that suggests that there may be some truth to the tale. In the 1870s, a German businessman named Heinrich Schliemann claimed to have found the site of ancient Troy in modern-day Turkey. He found evidence of a walled city with multiple layers of ruins, which might have been the result of multiple attacks over time. Whether or not this was the site of the Trojan War is still up for debate, but it's clear that Schliemann believed that he had discovered the home of king Priam and the legendary Trojan horse.

That said, not everyone agrees with Schliemann's findings. In fact, some scholars argue that the city he found wasn't actually Troy at all, but another nearby city with a similar name. Others point out that the ruins he found don't quite match up with the descriptions of the city in the Iliad. Additionally, there is evidence that suggests that the Trojan War didn't happen exactly as it was told in the myth. For example, it's possible that the conflict arose over economic disputes rather than the kidnapping of Helen.

Despite the disagreements among scholars, one thing is for sure: The Trojan War has had a lasting impact on culture and has become one of the most well-known stories from Greek mythology. It has been retold in countless books, movies, and TV shows over the years, and the characters from the story continue to inspire us today. The Trojan hero Hector, for example, has become synonymous with bravery, while Odysseus's journey home has been the inspiration for many other epic tales.
 
I am not sure. Troy was a real place I think but that's as far as I know.

I think there have been some excavation sites:

Troy I-VII and the Excavation Sites​

Troy I, the earliest settlement, dates back to the Early Bronze Age, showing the city's humble beginnings. As the layers move upward, each phase of Troy's development becomes clearer, culminating in Troy VII, the city's final incarnation, which was dramatically destroyed. The enigmatic nature of its demise parallels the mythos of the Trojan War, leaving room for interpretation and speculation.

Unearthing Artifacts and Structures​

What solidifies the reality of Troy is the physical tangible remains left by its inhabitants. From the imposing walls that once protected the city to the shards of pottery and tools used by its citizens, these artifacts are more than relics—they are touchstones to the past, offering a window into the daily lives of the Trojans and the events that shaped their world.
 
The Trojan War was written about various constellations. The Iliad relates to the constellations of the summer,the Fall of Troy relates to the autumn/Fall constellations and the Odyssey relates to the winter constellations. The constellation Hercules is Castor. The constellation Cygnus is Cycnus [Hector/Lynceus]. The constellation Pegasus is the wooden horse. The Constellation Cygnus is also Laocoon.
The constellation Cygnus [Picus/woodpecker/Celeus/Dryops/Oak-face/Apollo/Pelias] is below the constellation Pegasus [Wooden Horse].The woodpecker's beak
attacks oak-wood [ like a battering ram/Aries]. A woodpecker also has a head
[general and vanguard],a centre mass,a left wing and a right wing, and it has a tail [its baggage and rear-guard]. The head of the 'swan' is pointed towards Cepheus [the rock fortress of Troy]. Menelaus is Mangala [Ares/Apollo]. Atreus is Tantalus [Mercury]. Thyestes [Thestius] is Tjehuti [Thoth].
The daughters of Celeus [Pelias] were turned into doves [or pigeons/Peleiades/Pleiades].Helen is Jwalini [Jwala Devi/
Flame or Fire goddess/Aphrodite/Artemis Callisto/Aethra/Theia/Ino/Leucothea].
Hermione is Persephone [Dryope/Isis/
Hathor/Harmonia].
Isis/Dryope is the inveterate enemy of the oak-god Telipinu [Set/Dryas/Daire].
The constellation Cassiopeia is Cassandra. The Constellation Triangulum is Sicily.
The Constellation Eridanus is the Nile. Orion is Polyphemus [Mot/Mavet],related to Motya.
Odysseus is the constellation Taurus. Aries [Ares,who separates Odysseus and Penelope] is Polyphemus' ram under which
Odysseus [Hermes Criophorus] escapes.Penelope [Sose/Sosis/Pisces] by Hermes [Odysseus] was the mother of Pan [Iasus].
Iasion is Minos [Min/Pan]. Demeter [Deva-Meter/Rhea] is Pasiphae.
Heracles [Set/Sutekh] is
Meleager/Paris/Alexander/Daire/Dryas/
Deira/Castor/Beaver/Beverley/Seth,the third and youngest son of Adam.
Eurytus [Eurytion/Good rhyton/Aquarius Iolaus/Prometheus/Khnum/Ganymede/
Bata/Horus/Atum-Ra/
Parthenopaeus/' Son of Virgin Woman'] of Oechalia is the father of Iole [Violet/Iolanthe/Violet flower/Ion/wild violets/Athena]. Toxeus [son of Eurytus] is
Toxon/Sagittarius/Archer [Mercury/Shu].
The myth relates to the long fight by Horus against Set, after he slays Osiris,
and that Gemini [Castor/Heracles] rises as Sagittarius fades [these Zodiac signs are opposite each other].
Melaneus [Melanion], father of Eurytus,
is Osiris/Orion. Atalanta is Canis Major.
Artemis is Ursa Major. Apollo [Ares] is Geb
[Cepheus].
Upuaut/Lycus/Macedon is Aesacus/Isaac/Attagus/Attis/Atys/
Tammuz/
Athamas/Adonis/Idas/Oeneus/Cain.
Archilochus of Paros identified Alexander with Paris [Paros] and made Paris the avenger of Hector, rather than Astyanax [Melqart/Scamandrius/Hercules], the son of Hector. Odysseus [ originally Phoenix son of Amyntor in Homer, pre-Archilochus] slew Astyanax/Scamandrius.
Hecate is Hecuba.
Hippodamia [Briseis] is Pale Sapas [Greek Pasiphae], an alternative name for Ishtar/
Astarte/Inanna. Achilles/Pelops [Phrixus] is Mavet/Mot [Hades]. Oenomaus is Yarikh [Haoma].
Yarikh and Sapas were captives of Mavet
who were rescued by Anat [Antum/Athena]. Deidamia is Isis.
Lycomedes is Lycus/Tammuz/Oeneus.
Pyrrhus is Horus. Neoptolemus is Set, the successor of Osiris [Achilles/Krishna].
Anat [Pallas Athene/Polyxena] slew Mavet [Pallas].
Mavet is Osiris, the father of Horus/Atum.
Atum is Aton or Aten ,father of Athene
[Minerva Sulis/Saule/Sunna/
Dione/Egyptian Tefnut/Hecate].
Priam is Brahma [Biblical Abraham/Adam/
Hyacinthus - see Chaldaean tribe of Bit-Yakin that lived in the vicinity of Ur of the Chaldees]
and is a name for Tantalus [Mercury/
Stilbon/Enlil/Thanatos]. See Aesacus son of Priam and Isaac son of Abraham. Brahma is Welsh Bran [Crow/Greek Coronus, father of Coronis]. Bran was called Bodb Derg in Ireland. Coronis was called Badb and Bran in Ireland [ see female hound of Fionn ].
The raven [Corax] was the emblem of Odin
[Odysseus/Edonus/Hermes/Moon god].
Stilbe was Coronis.
Selene is Nephthys and was confused with Pasiphae/Mut [see Pausanias]. Hence the claim Pasiphae gave birth to the Minotaur.
The Greeks based their religion and myths on the pantheon of Heliopolis in Egypt,
simply using their own names for the gods of the planets etc. Atum was the Sun god Helios [god of Autumn]. Shu [Anhur] was Mercury [Stilbon] - Winter-god.
Geb [Cepheus] was Apollo/Ares [Spring-god]. Osiris was Hades [Aidoneus/Donn] and Set was Poseidon [Neptune].Set was the husband of Nephthys [Halcyon].Anpu [ Hermes/Anu/Uranus/Moon] was the son of Set [or Osiris/Hesperus/Dionysus] and Nephthys etc. There were 8 male gods and 4 female goddesses [each had 2 husbands/consorts]; e.g. Aphrodite paired with Ares [Mars]and Hephaestus [Shani/Saturn]. Mother Earth [Semele] was paired with Mercury and Moon-god.
Eos [Iusaaset/Usha] was Iset/Isis/Io and Hathor [Jocasta/Epicasta/after-Castalia].
Nephthys [Ma/Maia/Ninmah] was linked to Mut [Demeter/Hestia/Lotis/Anahita] in Egypt, where Rhea subsumed Hera, due to absence of a god of Jupiter [rain-god] in Egypt .
In India Vishnu's main aspects are Rama [Aries/Krios/Crius] and Krishna [Achilles].
Vasudeva ['Good God']
is Krios/Crius [Aries/Ram]and Devaki is
Anahita/Anahid/Naiad.Hanuman is Agamemnon [Agni/Gofannon/Gobhniu/
Aegaeon].
Cassiopeia [Medea] looks suspiciously like a form of Kassite [Babylonian] Opis/Opeia, where the forces of Cyrus the Great of Persia won a decisive victory over the Babylonians,but Kashyapa [Tortoise] in India was lame Hephaestus [Gofannan/Agamemnon/
Leucippus/lame Shani/Saturn].
Cycnus was the father of Castor [Vritra/Set] and Pollux [Polydeuces/Deucalion], but not of Helen/
Clytemnestra [[Hypermnestra/Aphrodite].
The gannet [Keyx/Ceyx/Triton] was sacred
to the Moon-god [Ibis in Egypt].The golden red feathers on his head are the reason Odysseus [Odin] is described as having red hair.
The gannet is the Egyptian Bennu, which the Greeks called the Phoenix [Ham/'Amm the son of Nuh/Noah/Deucalion]. The voyages of Odysseus are linked to the voyages of the Phoenicians, hated trading and colonising rivals of the Greeks/Hellenes. Odysseus [Eurus/East Wind] means hated/odious. Odysseus/Phoenix slew Astyanax/Scamandrius. Ceryx [herald] is linked to Ceyx and Corax [raven]. Ceyx is the son of Halcyon/Alcyone and the father of Daedalion/Daedalus, hence my probems in making the connection.
Ceyx's father was Eosphorus or Hesperus.
Polyphemus is Motya, near Aegusa. Ogygia,island of Calypso is Malta [Melita/
Maleth]. The Lotophagi live on the coast of Africa, Tripoli [OEA+Sabratha+Leptis Magna] was a Punic colony, as was Barca [Marj el Merj in northeast Libya]. Heracles was Melqart of Tyre [Set].
Phoenix [Laban] was the father of Adonis [Tammuz].
Protesilaus [Proteus/Podarces/Priam] was the son of Acastus [Iolaus] and the grandson of Iphicles.Hector [Cycnus] slew Protesilaus [Mercury]. Laodamia is Athena [Terra] here.The Hittite stag god Kurunta is Corinthus [Mercury/Actaeon,son of Aristaeus/Melissus/Helios].Corinthus was the father of Megareus/Ares.Megareus [Bellerophon/Belenus/Samson/blind Hodr] was the father of Megara/Nisa/Nisha/Nyx [Hera Henioche/Scylla].Byzas would have sailed from Nisa [Megara's port on Saronic Gulf].
Megareus was the father of Chalcedon [Phrixus/Bassareus/Polyphemus/Sisyphus/Bacchus/Zu/Imdugud] and Byzas/Byzantium.
Byzantium is Heracles [Eosphorus/Bosphorus].Megareus' brother is Salmoneus [Salamis/Atlas/Telamon].
Chalcedon's Megarian founders said to be blind for ignoring site of Byzantium.
Pyrrha is Eurydice [Isis/Io/Eos/Ushas].
The Danaides are Cyrene [kills sons of Aegyptus]. Lynceus [Lugh] is Apollo.
Mercury's chief symbols are the stag and eagle [Enlil/Aquilo/Boreas].The Mes stolen by Zu from Enlil is Mesha/Meshlamthea [Aries/Ares Pyroeis/Mesonyx/Pyrrhus].Mercury confused with Zu [Dionysus/Shiva/Hesperus].
Haemon ['bloody'] is Ares.Mount Haemus in Thrace was sacred to Ares.
 
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