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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
 
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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
Hi! In my baklava recipe, I use lemon, but you could easily replace it with orange. Have a look and let me know!
 
I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
 
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Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
 
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I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
In my Baklava recipe, I only use organic Greek honey, which isn't as sweet as the ordinary honey sold in supermarkets and everyone tells me my baklava is buttery, crunchy, and not overly sweet. It really depends on the honey you use, but it is easier to just make a simple sugar syrup.
 
Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
Honey is amazing with baklava!
 

Do you make Greek lentil soup with vinegar

I’ve always made fakes with a splash of vinegar, either stirred into the pot near the end or added individually at the table. To me, that little bit of acidity is part of what makes the soup taste right, especially with the earthy lentils, olive oil, onion, garlic, and bay leaf.

But I have a Greek friend who makes hers very differently. She doesn’t use vinegar at all and instead adds quite a lot of tomato product, so her version is much redder and more tomato-forward than mine.

Now I’m curious about what is considered more traditional in Greek cooking. Is vinegar usually a standard part of fakes, or is it more of a regional or family preference? Are tomato-heavy versions just as traditional?

How do you make yours, and what did your family serve growing up?

Do You Put Cinnamon in Your Keftedes?

I’m curious how everyone here makes keftedes, especially when it comes to cinnamon. I know some Greek families add a little cinnamon to the meat mixture, while others would never think of putting it in.

In my experience, even a small amount can change the flavor quite a bit. It gives the keftedes a warmer, slightly sweeter spice in the background, but I can also see how it might not be for everyone. I’ve had versions that lean more heavily on oregano, mint, parsley, garlic, and onion instead.

Do you put cinnamon in your keftedes? If you do, how much do you usually use, and was that something your family always did? I’d also be curious to know if it varies depending on what part of Greece your family comes from.

Would love to hear how everyone seasons theirs and what you consider essential for really good keftedes.

My Family’s Keftedes Recipe

Keftedes are one of those foods that always remind me of family gatherings. Everyone seems to make them a little differently, but this is the basic version my family has always used.

For about a pound of ground beef, we add one small grated onion, a handful of chopped fresh parsley, a little fresh mint, one egg, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper, oregano, and a small splash of red wine vinegar. Sometimes we add a little grated garlic as well.

The important part is mixing everything well and then letting the mixture sit in the refrigerator for a little while before shaping the keftedes. We make them fairly small, roll them lightly in flour, and fry them in olive oil until browned on the outside and cooked through.

We usually serve them with lemon, potatoes, salad, or tzatziki.

How does your family make keftedes? I’m especially curious about which herbs and seasonings everyone uses. Thought I'd share!

Is lamb or beef more traditional for giouvetsi?

I've been looking into traditional Greek giouvetsi recipes lately, and I'm curious about which meat is considered the most traditional. I've seen recipes that use lamb, others that call for beef, and even some that use chicken.

I love the idea of slowly cooking the meat in a rich tomato sauce with orzo until everything becomes tender and flavorful. However, I'm wondering whether lamb or beef would be the more authentic choice.

Is one traditionally preferred in certain regions of Greece? I've read that lamb is often associated with older Greek recipes, but beef seems to be very common in modern versions of giouvetsi.

I'm also curious whether the choice of meat changes the way the dish is prepared. Does lamb require different seasonings or cooking times than beef?

For those familiar with traditional Greek cooking, which version do you prefer, and which would you recommend trying first?

Do you put potatoes in your briam?

I've noticed that there are quite a few variations of briam, especially when it comes to which vegetables people include. One ingredient I'm particularly curious about is potatoes. Do you always put potatoes in your briam, or do you prefer making it without them?

I usually think of briam as a combination of zucchini, eggplant, potatoes, tomatoes, onions, and plenty of olive oil. I love how the potatoes absorb all those wonderful flavors as everything slowly roasts together in the oven.

However, I've seen recipes that leave the potatoes out entirely and focus more on the summer vegetables. I imagine that makes the dish a little lighter.

I'm also curious whether there are regional differences in how briam is prepared throughout Greece. Does your family have a particular way of making it? And what vegetables do you consider absolutely essential?
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