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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
 
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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
Hi! In my baklava recipe, I use lemon, but you could easily replace it with orange. Have a look and let me know!
 
I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
 
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Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
 
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I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
In my Baklava recipe, I only use organic Greek honey, which isn't as sweet as the ordinary honey sold in supermarkets and everyone tells me my baklava is buttery, crunchy, and not overly sweet. It really depends on the honey you use, but it is easier to just make a simple sugar syrup.
 
Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
Honey is amazing with baklava!
 

Is lamb or beef more traditional for giouvetsi?

I've been looking into traditional Greek giouvetsi recipes lately, and I'm curious about which meat is considered the most traditional. I've seen recipes that use lamb, others that call for beef, and even some that use chicken.

I love the idea of slowly cooking the meat in a rich tomato sauce with orzo until everything becomes tender and flavorful. However, I'm wondering whether lamb or beef would be the more authentic choice.

Is one traditionally preferred in certain regions of Greece? I've read that lamb is often associated with older Greek recipes, but beef seems to be very common in modern versions of giouvetsi.

I'm also curious whether the choice of meat changes the way the dish is prepared. Does lamb require different seasonings or cooking times than beef?

For those familiar with traditional Greek cooking, which version do you prefer, and which would you recommend trying first?

My Family’s Keftedes Recipe

Keftedes are one of those foods that always remind me of family gatherings. Everyone seems to make them a little differently, but this is the basic version my family has always used.

For about a pound of ground beef, we add one small grated onion, a handful of chopped fresh parsley, a little fresh mint, one egg, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper, oregano, and a small splash of red wine vinegar. Sometimes we add a little grated garlic as well.

The important part is mixing everything well and then letting the mixture sit in the refrigerator for a little while before shaping the keftedes. We make them fairly small, roll them lightly in flour, and fry them in olive oil until browned on the outside and cooked through.

We usually serve them with lemon, potatoes, salad, or tzatziki.

How does your family make keftedes? I’m especially curious about which herbs and seasonings everyone uses. Thought I'd share!

Greek cooking without a recipe?

I've been thinking about how much traditional Greek cooking relies on instinct rather than following exact recipes. Some of the Greek dishes I learned to make were taught to me by feel, with someone showing me what to do rather than measuring everything out.

I actually enjoy cooking this way, but I've noticed that it can make certain dishes difficult to recreate consistently! Sometimes everything comes together perfectly, and other times I wonder what I did differently.

I'm curious how others approach this. Did you learn Greek cooking by watching your yiayia, mother, or other relatives? Do you measure ingredients, or do you just know when something looks, smells, or tastes right?

What herbs do you use when making Greek stuffed zucchini?

I've been thinking about making Greek stuffed zucchini (kolokithakia gemista), and I'm curious about which herbs everyone uses in the filling. I've seen quite a few variations, and it seems like the combination of herbs can really influence the overall flavor of the dish.

Some recipes use plenty of fresh dill and parsley, while others include mint or even a little oregano. I've also noticed that some people add green onions for extra flavor. I'm wondering whether certain herbs are considered more traditional, especially when making stuffed zucchini with rice and ground meat.

Do you use a combination of herbs, or do you prefer to keep the seasoning fairly simple? Does your family have a particular recipe that has been passed down through generations?

I'm especially interested in how the herbs complement the avgolemono sauce. What combination do you think gives Greek stuffed zucchini the best flavor?

Do You Make Avgolemono Thick or Brothy?

I usually prefer avgolemono somewhere in the middle. I don’t like it so thick that it feels almost like a cream soup, but I also don’t want it completely thin and brothy. For me, the best version has enough egg and lemon to give the broth some body while still keeping it light.

A lot probably depends on what kind of avgolemono you’re making, too. In chicken soup, I like it a little more brothy because I want the rice or orzo and chicken to still stand out. With something like lahanodolmades, I don’t mind the avgolemono sauce being thicker because it is coating the food rather than serving as the soup itself.

The lemon level matters just as much as the thickness. I like enough lemon to make it bright and noticeable, but not so much that it overwhelms everything else. I think balance is really the key.
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