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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
 
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My family changed its baklava syrup during Christmas. It involved orange, cinnamon, maybe cloves. I don't quite remember and the recipe got lost! I've tried to figure out what everyone did. It may have died with my grandmother. Her sister is still alive but she never really cooked so has no clue.

I don't know where to start, but I've had a few failed attempts:

- Attempt 1 - Made syrup only from sugar and added orange zest, cinnamon stick, and a few cloves. It tasted bitter and too pungent.
- Attempt 2 - Reduced some of the sugar and water and added honey instead.
- Attempt 3 - Kept the sugar/honey proportions, eliminated the clove, and added an extra cinnamon stick.

Attempt 3 got closer. I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Did anyone else's families change things up for their baklava around Christmas?
Hi! In my baklava recipe, I use lemon, but you could easily replace it with orange. Have a look and let me know!
 
I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
 
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Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
 
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I learned to make baklava from a cousin of my mother who was from Greece. She said never never ever use honey for syrup because it is too sweet. She taught me 2 cups of sugar and 2 cups of water boiled until syrup constancy, a bit of cinnamon, lemon or orange peel, though I don't recall cloves. Compliments I received were that my baklava was not so sweet you didn't feel like you had to brush your teeth right after eating it. Maybe they make it sweeter in Greece, not sure, but baklava should taste like nuts and butter with the phyllo dough, and sweetness. At least that's my thought.
In my Baklava recipe, I only use organic Greek honey, which isn't as sweet as the ordinary honey sold in supermarkets and everyone tells me my baklava is buttery, crunchy, and not overly sweet. It really depends on the honey you use, but it is easier to just make a simple sugar syrup.
 
Your family's Christmas baklava syrup sounds so special—it’s worth the effort to recreate it! Based on your attempts, I’d suggest a few tweaks to get closer to what you remember.

First, for the bitterness, try blanching the orange zest briefly in hot water before adding it to the syrup to remove the sharp edge. Stick with just one cinnamon stick, as too much can overpower the flavors. Keep the cloves, but limit it to just 1-2 for a subtle hint rather than a dominant taste.

Honey is a great addition for depth and holiday warmth. A good ratio might be 2 parts sugar, 1 part honey, and 3 parts water. Simmer the syrup gently with the zest, cinnamon, and cloves for 10-15 minutes to let the flavors meld without becoming too concentrated.

Some families add a splash of orange juice or a few drops of vanilla extract for extra nuance.
Honey is amazing with baklava!
 

Greek cooking without a recipe?

I've been thinking about how much traditional Greek cooking relies on instinct rather than following exact recipes. Some of the Greek dishes I learned to make were taught to me by feel, with someone showing me what to do rather than measuring everything out.

I actually enjoy cooking this way, but I've noticed that it can make certain dishes difficult to recreate consistently! Sometimes everything comes together perfectly, and other times I wonder what I did differently.

I'm curious how others approach this. Did you learn Greek cooking by watching your yiayia, mother, or other relatives? Do you measure ingredients, or do you just know when something looks, smells, or tastes right?

Is lamb or beef more traditional for giouvetsi?

I've been looking into traditional Greek giouvetsi recipes lately, and I'm curious about which meat is considered the most traditional. I've seen recipes that use lamb, others that call for beef, and even some that use chicken.

I love the idea of slowly cooking the meat in a rich tomato sauce with orzo until everything becomes tender and flavorful. However, I'm wondering whether lamb or beef would be the more authentic choice.

Is one traditionally preferred in certain regions of Greece? I've read that lamb is often associated with older Greek recipes, but beef seems to be very common in modern versions of giouvetsi.

I'm also curious whether the choice of meat changes the way the dish is prepared. Does lamb require different seasonings or cooking times than beef?

For those familiar with traditional Greek cooking, which version do you prefer, and which would you recommend trying first?

How Much Garlic in a Batch of Tzatziki?

How much garlic do you usually put in a batch of tzatziki? I think I may be using a little too much. I usually make mine with about 2 cups of Greek yogurt and 4 cloves of garlic, along with cucumber, olive oil, and the other usual ingredients.

It tastes great when I first make it, but we usually take about three days to finish the batch. By the second or third day, the garlic flavor and smell become really strong. Some people in my household love that and don’t mind it at all, but others think it becomes a bit overpowering. I’m starting to agree that four cloves might be too much, especially since the garlic seems to get stronger as it sits.

What do you all do? How many cloves would you use for about 2 cups of Greek yogurt?

Do you put potatoes in your briam?

I've noticed that there are quite a few variations of briam, especially when it comes to which vegetables people include. One ingredient I'm particularly curious about is potatoes. Do you always put potatoes in your briam, or do you prefer making it without them?

I usually think of briam as a combination of zucchini, eggplant, potatoes, tomatoes, onions, and plenty of olive oil. I love how the potatoes absorb all those wonderful flavors as everything slowly roasts together in the oven.

However, I've seen recipes that leave the potatoes out entirely and focus more on the summer vegetables. I imagine that makes the dish a little lighter.

I'm also curious whether there are regional differences in how briam is prepared throughout Greece. Does your family have a particular way of making it? And what vegetables do you consider absolutely essential?

Do you make your pastitsio with a thick or thin layer of krema?

I've always preferred my pastitsio with a nice, thick layer of béchamel on top. To me, that's one of the best parts of the dish! I love when the krema is rich, creamy, and thick enough to hold its shape when you cut into the pastitsio.

The problem is that I've been having trouble getting my krema just right. Sometimes it comes out too thin, and other times the texture isn't quite as smooth as I'd like. I've tried adjusting the amount of flour and milk, but I still haven't found the perfect balance.

I'm curious how everyone else makes theirs. Do you prefer a thick layer of béchamel or just enough to cover the pasta? Does your family add eggs or cheese to the mixture?

I'd especially love to hear any tips for making a thick, smooth krema that sets beautifully when baked!
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